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DdC · 02-25-2003, 11:30 AM

Now can we use the "F" word?
FASCIST!!! ¶8)

Subject: 003 ALERT: DEA to Redirect Seized Websites!!
from Ron Bennett

State and federal authorities recently conducted raids of various companies/individuals that sell "drug paraphernalia", such as pipes and related materials. Pipes, etc were seized along with their websites.

According to a Voice of America article, Mr. Ashcroft says they plan to redirect the seized websites to to the DEA website.

A frightening quote from the a Voice of America article:
<a href="http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID =FAAF0B60-2B80-4100-BD255885C43351A6" target="_blank">http ://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID =FAAF0B60-2B80-4100-BD255885C43351A6</A>

"Mr. Ashcroft says customers who want to visit some of their favorite drug paraphernalia websites are in for a big surprise in the days ahead. They will be automatically redirected to the website for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration."

In essence the DEA is going to usurp the freedom of speech and expression of the people who run those seized websites. This would be akin to the U.S. Dept of Justice redirecting the "aclu.org" website to the "usdoj.gov" website.

And then there are the serious privacy issues involved if the DEA redirects the seized websites, since they'll be logging all visitors, obtaining their IP address and other highly personal information.

I encourage everyone here who values the freedom of speech and expression to contact their local ACLU chapter (list can be found at <a href="http://www.aclu.org" target="_blank">http ://www.aclu.org</A> and/or other organizations that works with such issues.

Bottom line is this is a serious issue and if the DEA is able to do this, they could potentially redirect *ANY* website - remember that the owners of the websites seized have *NOT* been convicted of any crime.

Ron Bennett

Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:35:34 -0800
From: "D. Paul Stanford" stanford@crrh.org
Subject: 004 Tommy Chong Glass raided

If there was any doubt this was a culture war...

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Cheech and Chong Newsletter said:

Tommy Framed?...Tommy Chong's factory,
Chong Glass, as well as his home in California were raided by the feds today.
<a href="http://www.cheechandchong.c om/newsstories.html" target="_blank">http ://www.cheechandchong.c om/newsstories.html</A>

TOMMY FRAMED? 02.24.2003

Tommy Chong's Chong Glass factory, as well as his home were raided by federal drug agents and other officials today. It was part of a nationwide DEA plan to close companies that manufacture and sell drug paraphernalia. It's unknown if charges have been filed against Chong or Chong Glass. "Those under indictment face a maximum three years in prison, and/or a $250,000 fine, per count, if convicted." The bust was organized by John Ashcroft and the Bush administration. Ironically, President Bush was a major drug user in his youth. It's unknown if he and his wife, Shelby, will still be performing their stand-up act tonight and tomorrow at Laff's in Tucson, AZ.

<a href="http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,11326,00.html?eo l.tkr" target="_blank">http ://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,11326,00.html?eo l.tkr</A>

Feds Smoke Out Chong?
by Joal Ryan
Feb 24, 2003, 4:45 PM PT

Tommy Chong's Chong Glass makes a promise to its customers. All of its products--chiefly, handmade pipes that the Los Angeles Times once wrote "could double as a bong"--are, the company Website says, "for legal blend and tobacco use only." Or maybe not. Chong, once one-half of the high-flying (literally) comedy team, Cheech & Chong, saw his Gardena, California, factory and Pacific Palisades home raided Monday by federal drug agents and other authorities, Los Angeles TV station NBC4 reported.

The Chong sweep was said to be related to nationwide Drug Enforcement Agency-led crackdowns on businesses that trade in what U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft called Monday the "illegal drug paraphernalia industry." The initiatives--dubbed, in the tradition of double-entendre-titled Cheech & Chong flicks, Operation Pipe Dreams and Operation Headhunter--swept up 55 people from California to Florida, with most of the arrests coming in Pennsylvania. Neither Tommy Chong, nor Chong Glass, was named in the indictment.

A message left on Chong Glass' answering machine ("Okay, damn, you just reached Chong Glass," its owner intones on the outgoing message) was not returned Monday.

A DEA official said search warrants were served on Chong's business and home. It was not immediately known what came of the raids. Chong Glass, with its stock of handpipes and hammers and sidecars, is described in the comic's official bio as a family business providing "a unique collection of high-quality, original functional art and signature merchandise." "When he is not at Chong Glass testing the merchandise," his Website notes, Chong, 64, is on the stand-up circuit twice a month with his new partner in gags, wife Shelby.

Chong's show-biz career started smoking in the 1970s when he and Cheech Marin played tie-dyed stoners in a series of pot-joke comedies, such as Up in Smoke. The duo split in 1985. Marin went prime-time, playing Don Johnson's straight-shooting partner in Nash Bridges. Chong continued to bill himself as a hemp advocate and a "born-again doper," playing Hyde's stoner tie-dyed boss on That '70s Show. Last month, Chong's daughter, actress Rae Dawn Chong, told E! Online that she has penned a script aimed at reuniting her father with Marin. Its title: Cheech & Chong Get Blunt.

The people indicted Monday, many of them owners of either real-world retail shops or cyber-space e-commerce sites, were charged with selling items that, the feds say, are "primarily intended or designed to be used in ingesting, inhaling or otherwise using controlled substances." Translation: Bongs, crack pipes, roach clips, miniature spoons. Those under indictment face a maximum three years in prison, and/or a $250,000 fine, per count, if convicted.
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"'The United States made us do it' cannot be a sufficient or acceptable justification for the Government to intrude on a fundamental right of Canadians." -- George Radwanski

Dept of Justice Raids: 17 in Idaho/Eastern Oregon
Grand jury indicts 17 from Idaho, eastern Oregon
<a href="http://204.228.236.37/News/story.asp?ID=3D33832 " target="_blank">http ://204.228.236.37/News/story.asp?ID=3D33832 </A>
Dept of Justice Raids: 2 in Eugene
Glass artists netted in nationwide drug paraphernalia bust
<a href="http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=54974" target="_blank">http ://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=54974</A>
Drug-Paraphernalia Traffickers Out of Business
<a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15555.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15555.shtml</A>
Feds Weed Out Drug Paraphernalia Sites
<a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15552.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15552.shtml</A>
US Says It Has Cut Off Supplies of Paraphernalia
<a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15551.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15551.shtml</A>
Feds Crack Down on Drug Paraphernalia
<a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15550.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15550.shtml</A>
'It's Medicinal' Vies Against 'It's Illegal'
<a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15549.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15549.shtml</A>
2nd New York Times Article Today!
<a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15555.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15555.shtml</A>
Washington Post Article
<a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15554.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15554.shtml</A>
Charges Filed in Online Drug Paraphernalia Sales Case
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/articles/A59508-2003Feb24.html" target="_blank">http ://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/articles/A59508-2003Feb24.html</A>
Liberties Group Opposes Internet Blocking
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/articles/A33761-2003Feb20.html" target="_blank">http ://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/articles/A33761-2003Feb20.html</A>
Center for Democracy & Technology: <a href="http://www.cdt.org" target="_blank">http ://www.cdt.org</A>
Pennsylvania Attorney General: <a href="http://www.attorneygeneral. gov" target="_blank">http ://www.attorneygeneral. gov</A>
Harvard study: <a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.ed u/people/edelman/ip-sharing" target="_blank">http ://cyber.law.harvard.ed u/people/edelman/ip-sharing</A>

02-25-2003, 11:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
DdC Decade Yahookan Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Santa Cruz,CA,USA Posts: 2,088 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 47 Thanked 570 Times in 378 Posts	Now can we use the "F" word? FASCIST!!! ¶8) Subject: 003 ALERT: DEA to Redirect Seized Websites!! from Ron Bennett State and federal authorities recently conducted raids of various companies/individuals that sell "drug paraphernalia", such as pipes and related materials. Pipes, etc were seized along with their websites. According to a Voice of America article, Mr. Ashcroft says they plan to redirect the seized websites to to the DEA website. A frightening quote from the a Voice of America article: <a href="http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID =FAAF0B60-2B80-4100-BD255885C43351A6" target="_blank">http ://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID =FAAF0B60-2B80-4100-BD255885C43351A6</A> "Mr. Ashcroft says customers who want to visit some of their favorite drug paraphernalia websites are in for a big surprise in the days ahead. They will be automatically redirected to the website for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration." In essence the DEA is going to usurp the freedom of speech and expression of the people who run those seized websites. This would be akin to the U.S. Dept of Justice redirecting the "aclu.org" website to the "usdoj.gov" website. And then there are the serious privacy issues involved if the DEA redirects the seized websites, since they'll be logging all visitors, obtaining their IP address and other highly personal information. I encourage everyone here who values the freedom of speech and expression to contact their local ACLU chapter (list can be found at <a href="http://www.aclu.org" target="_blank">http ://www.aclu.org</A> and/or other organizations that works with such issues. Bottom line is this is a serious issue and if the DEA is able to do this, they could potentially redirect ANY website - remember that the owners of the websites seized have NOT been convicted of any crime. Ron Bennett Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:35:34 -0800 From: "D. Paul Stanford" stanford@crrh.org Subject: 004 Tommy Chong Glass raided If there was any doubt this was a culture war... - --- Cheech and Chong Newsletter said: Tommy Framed?...Tommy Chong's factory, Chong Glass, as well as his home in California were raided by the feds today. <a href="http://www.cheechandchong.c om/newsstories.html" target="_blank">http ://www.cheechandchong.c om/newsstories.html</A> TOMMY FRAMED? 02.24.2003 Tommy Chong's Chong Glass factory, as well as his home were raided by federal drug agents and other officials today. It was part of a nationwide DEA plan to close companies that manufacture and sell drug paraphernalia. It's unknown if charges have been filed against Chong or Chong Glass. "Those under indictment face a maximum three years in prison, and/or a $250,000 fine, per count, if convicted." The bust was organized by John Ashcroft and the Bush administration. Ironically, President Bush was a major drug user in his youth. It's unknown if he and his wife, Shelby, will still be performing their stand-up act tonight and tomorrow at Laff's in Tucson, AZ. <a href="http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,11326,00.html?eo l.tkr" target="_blank">http ://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,11326,00.html?eo l.tkr</A> Feds Smoke Out Chong? by Joal Ryan Feb 24, 2003, 4:45 PM PT Tommy Chong's Chong Glass makes a promise to its customers. All of its products--chiefly, handmade pipes that the Los Angeles Times once wrote "could double as a bong"--are, the company Website says, "for legal blend and tobacco use only." Or maybe not. Chong, once one-half of the high-flying (literally) comedy team, Cheech & Chong, saw his Gardena, California, factory and Pacific Palisades home raided Monday by federal drug agents and other authorities, Los Angeles TV station NBC4 reported. The Chong sweep was said to be related to nationwide Drug Enforcement Agency-led crackdowns on businesses that trade in what U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft called Monday the "illegal drug paraphernalia industry." The initiatives--dubbed, in the tradition of double-entendre-titled Cheech & Chong flicks, Operation Pipe Dreams and Operation Headhunter--swept up 55 people from California to Florida, with most of the arrests coming in Pennsylvania. Neither Tommy Chong, nor Chong Glass, was named in the indictment. A message left on Chong Glass' answering machine ("Okay, damn, you just reached Chong Glass," its owner intones on the outgoing message) was not returned Monday. A DEA official said search warrants were served on Chong's business and home. It was not immediately known what came of the raids. Chong Glass, with its stock of handpipes and hammers and sidecars, is described in the comic's official bio as a family business providing "a unique collection of high-quality, original functional art and signature merchandise." "When he is not at Chong Glass testing the merchandise," his Website notes, Chong, 64, is on the stand-up circuit twice a month with his new partner in gags, wife Shelby. Chong's show-biz career started smoking in the 1970s when he and Cheech Marin played tie-dyed stoners in a series of pot-joke comedies, such as Up in Smoke. The duo split in 1985. Marin went prime-time, playing Don Johnson's straight-shooting partner in Nash Bridges. Chong continued to bill himself as a hemp advocate and a "born-again doper," playing Hyde's stoner tie-dyed boss on That '70s Show. Last month, Chong's daughter, actress Rae Dawn Chong, told E! Online that she has penned a script aimed at reuniting her father with Marin. Its title: Cheech & Chong Get Blunt. The people indicted Monday, many of them owners of either real-world retail shops or cyber-space e-commerce sites, were charged with selling items that, the feds say, are "primarily intended or designed to be used in ingesting, inhaling or otherwise using controlled substances." Translation: Bongs, crack pipes, roach clips, miniature spoons. Those under indictment face a maximum three years in prison, and/or a $250,000 fine, per count, if convicted. - -- "'The United States made us do it' cannot be a sufficient or acceptable justification for the Government to intrude on a fundamental right of Canadians." -- George Radwanski Dept of Justice Raids: 17 in Idaho/Eastern Oregon Grand jury indicts 17 from Idaho, eastern Oregon <a href="http://204.228.236.37/News/story.asp?ID=3D33832 " target="_blank">http ://204.228.236.37/News/story.asp?ID=3D33832 </A> Dept of Justice Raids: 2 in Eugene Glass artists netted in nationwide drug paraphernalia bust <a href="http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=54974" target="_blank">http ://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=54974</A> Drug-Paraphernalia Traffickers Out of Business <a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15555.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15555.shtml</A> Feds Weed Out Drug Paraphernalia Sites <a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15552.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15552.shtml</A> US Says It Has Cut Off Supplies of Paraphernalia <a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15551.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15551.shtml</A> Feds Crack Down on Drug Paraphernalia <a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15550.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15550.shtml</A> 'It's Medicinal' Vies Against 'It's Illegal' <a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15549.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15549.shtml</A> 2nd New York Times Article Today! <a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15555.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15555.shtml</A> Washington Post Article <a href="http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15554.shtml" target="_blank">http ://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15554.shtml</A> Charges Filed in Online Drug Paraphernalia Sales Case <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/articles/A59508-2003Feb24.html" target="_blank">http ://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/articles/A59508-2003Feb24.html</A> Liberties Group Opposes Internet Blocking <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/articles/A33761-2003Feb20.html" target="_blank">http ://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/articles/A33761-2003Feb20.html</A> Center for Democracy & Technology: <a href="http://www.cdt.org" target="_blank">http ://www.cdt.org</A> Pennsylvania Attorney General: <a href="http://www.attorneygeneral. gov" target="_blank">http ://www.attorneygeneral. gov</A> Harvard study: <a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.ed u/people/edelman/ip-sharing" target="_blank">http ://cyber.law.harvard.ed u/people/edelman/ip-sharing</A> __________________ Al Capone and Watergate were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol then Ganja//Hemp.