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Originally Posted by candyshop454
The Rev and Koery are talking about deism. A belief that a world with laws of nature was created by God and then abandoned. And the world is now run by the laws.
Intelligent Design says that we were created by a "higher power" and then not abandoned. The higher power has the ability to "intelligently" guide things as he wants, i.e, everything is at his discretion. Supporters of Intelligent Design say that evolution can indeed occur, but only if the higher power wants it to. In other words Darwin's theory of natural selection having guided the origin of species is false, because only the higher power can guide.
My point is that you can't believe in the laws of science and an active God (doing as he pleases).
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I'm not talking about deism. I'm saying that it is possible that God created the Human Universe within a framework of natural laws, just the same as we might create an ant farm. I don't see any reason to think that a being, no matter how evolved, or influential, would be outside the laws of nature.
And if this being created our laws of nature (and there is reason to believe that the Newtonian framework of our universe IS only a limiting case), it is entirely possible that there is a wider context of natural law from which these laws were created. Everything exists within a more general context, and certainly God exists within a context as well, if He's compatible with the rest of reality. If He isn't, then He is fantasy.
The Rev