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Originally Posted by v3d4
MLK jr carried the gospel; that is why he was jailed and opressed by the state
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Interesting, could you expound on this? I haven't heard it before unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by v3d4
in the civil rights movement the correlation between voting and legislation passed in favor of black people is null. what did cause a rise in legislation in favor of black folks was the nonviolent actions spurring up across the land. once those actions ceased, the legislation stopped, while at the same time those same black people continued to vote. So the connection between voting and getting something done to relieve suffering is weak. the most powerful actions were those outside the ballot box.
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I'm sorry I guess I should've been more specific. I wasn't even thinking about that connection when posting. Voting was in regards to (in my mind) womens rights and their movement. At the time I choose this one simply because I don't think womens rights were really addressed in the Bible. I brought up MLK Jr and his movement because I thought he, just like the women, fought for their rights. This is of course using the definition of "To strive vigorously and resolutely: fought against graft; fighting for her rights."
I find this strive vigorously and resolutely very important, because this did this against the social pressure around them. The thing is with these politics and what I'm inferring from your posts is that you'd take a position of noncompliance, etc, but would not actively fight for the reasons why you take that stance of noncompliance. This of course using the same definition.
Now, the thing is I would not give this advice in a time where you would be simply killed outright for your actions. As said "He did not recommend reforming the churches. He said they will hate you and put you out of them, and kill you. (John 15:20)" But now, in a democratic society, where the people rule the people, I would have to say to fight, yes. In the arena of reason, nonviolence, etc, as demonstrated by MLK Jr and Gandhi before him and many others. In this sense, while I agree with many things stated, I still feel they're outdated, and can be modernized greatly. This would of course compromise what many consider the word of God.
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Originally Posted by v3d4
victory for humanity
is victory in Christ
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Yeah I'd have to agree with that.