As usual, I have only read bits and pieces (sue me

)... here's the deal.... everyone 'is' 'at times' in the state of mind that we are referring to. We may have 'met there' may 'at times' meet there or may some day meet there.

Everything that you try to say may seem condescending to someone with a different POINT OF VIEW.... another way of saying 'frame of mind' or even 'state of consciousness' is POINT OF VIEW. Now, none is RIGHT and none is WRONG... one might say that one is correct for a specific purpose. For instance, if I were asleep and dreaming and you approached my sleeping body quietly, I would never know that you were there because my point of view is in the dreaming world. We can meet here or there but we both have to be where we meet.

And 'not meeting' doesn't make one right and one wrong, this is just a misperception.