Originally Posted by euphoria

IDAVISA...

My fiance' found your post this morning prior to me going to have a hair follicle test, and I thank you so much for your info! I am at stake for possibly losing my children to my ex (who I now have found out he and his girlfriend is molesting my three year old daughter)It's a sad and horrible thing!! He is just grasping at straws because he is now being investigated! I only smoke weed occasoinally until all this crap started then it became regular but NOT infront of my children or around them!! It has helped my nerves so much!! I never thought I would actually want to kill someone in my whole life with a passion like I do for them!! (Don't worry I control it! I know he's about to get his if you know what I mean! Killing them would be an easy way out! I want them to PAY for what they have done!!!) I'm sure if you have kids you too will understand these feelings!!

What I'm getting at (I know I'm getting to the point, just trying to give you some insite on what's going on!) is that before I found out about your method I ordered the total body cleanse (which I won't add where from, don't want to seem as if I'm trying to sell something! Looks as though you've been harassed enough!) I did that for seven days prior to treating my hair.(it was just in case they wanted to do more than a hair sample) I bought the hair mud. (not to be used until the day OF testing!) I bought the ultra cleanse and aloe rid as well! I also bought apple cider vinegar, deep facial cleanser, & laundry det. ! Then like I said found out about your method and already had most of the ingredients!

I figured hell I might as well try as many as I can because I too was VERY skeptical given the circumstances!

My hair test was this morning at 11:30 am. I started these processes beginning with the det., vinegar, and cleanser method! Then the mud! Lastly your method!

So I am HOPING yours if not one of these will work!! I will keep you guys posted! I can't say though for sure which exact one will work because I had already did the det., vinegar, cleanser first, had the hair mud in and then my fiance' printed your method out so I did that IMMEDIATLY follwing suit!!! To the "T"! Anyway thanks for your info I'm sure everyone just as I am are greatly appreciative! I will be able to know the soonest monday june 10th!

P.S. I have (fusion) extension in so the only took hair from my "crown" and was only about five inches long! I'm a female and I'm 20 years old!

Originally Posted by RobBob

Idavisa,
I had some time today to do some further research. First, I am finding more risks and dangers of using bleach and hydrogen peroxide. They are very dangerous to mess around with. That said, I have found both a reason to be doubtful, and a reason to be hopeful, regarding the effectiveness of your method:

REASON TO BE DOUBTFUL:

According to Wikipedia's article for hydrogen peroxide:

NaOCl + H2O2 → O2 + NaCl + H2O

In other words, household bleach (sodium hypochlorite or NaOCl) plus hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) react to form oxygen bubbles (which quickly escape into the environment) and salt water.

There was a scientific paper published years ago which analyzed the effects of various treatments on the toxins found in hair. It looked at alkaline wave solutions, hair bleaching, dandruff shampoo, artificial sweat, etc., etc., and how they effected drug levels in the hair. As a proxy for artificial sweat, they used salt water! They found that it had very little effect on reducing the drug concentrations in hair - even after 20 hours! (Welch, M.J., Sniegoski, L.T., Allgood, Ch., and Habram, M., Hair Analysis For Drugs of Abuse: Evaluation of Analytical Methods, Environmental Issues, and Development of Reference Materials, J. Anal. Toxicology, 17, 389, 1993).

If the bleach and peroxide react to form salt water, and if salt water has been shown to have little effect, then I am doubtful.

REASON TO BE HOPEFUL:

The same research cited above (Welch, et al), found that the greatest decrease in cocaine concentration was observed with 30% hydrogen peroxide and an alkaline wave solution. This reduced the drug concentration found in the hair by 80% to 95%. Bleach is an alkaline (base/basic) solution, so PERHAPS it would act on the hair in a manner similar to the alkaline wave solution (???) -- assuming that it isnt first converted into saltwater??? And would the concentrated hydrogen peroxide poison you or burn you? I am working on getting a complete copy of the Welch paper. It may take weeks to get it. If successful, I will provide more details then.

There is a lot of uncertainty surrounding all of this. After looking at a half-dozen research papers, you often end up with more questions than you started with. Some treatments (such as propylene glycol) are rumored to eliminate THC and its metabolites, but not necessarily other drugs. Organic solvents and certain diluted acids are used by some testing labs to extract drugs/metabolites from hair overnight, but at temperatures that would burn you within seconds if the hair was still attached to your head. Maybe it would also work at tolerable temperatures -- or maybe it wouldnt. Who knows? Would the diluted acid burn your skin? Not sure. Would the chemicals poison you? Who knows? But the greatness of the internet is that we can learn from each other.

Ideally, we would someday have two sets of hair tests done... the same people before and after the Idavisa method... to test its effectiveness.

Rob