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Old 10-28-2008, 08:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I make a few assumptions it seems to me here. One being that there is an individual with a soul sort of idea which is the 'you' that experiences objective and subjective, and knows on some level when a judgment is made or when something is accepted for what it truly is.
what it comes down to are judgments and associations.

are you aware of when you are judging every second of every day and what those judgements are? usually they stay on the fringe of our attention, not getting any actual recognition until an event calls those judgements into question. every past experience we have had we judge automatically and store it away in our memory as an association. and when it comes time to create new, to experience new, we draw upon the old associations because thats all we really have. i dont think it matters whether reality is subjective or objective in that context. whether or not that experience was bad because it was actually objectively bad or whether it was bad because you judge it as bad is irrelevant. it was bad for you.

then it becomes "why are things bad" and that really is a complicated topic. we hold preferences, and our preferences judge our experiences automatically. We hold beliefs, and beliefs affect how we perceive reality and affect our judgments.

the important thing, imo, is to be aware of yourself and your preferences, so when an experience comes along that you see as "bad" you are aware enough to recognize why it was bad for you, and choose not to experience that any more. its when we ARENT aware that we create conflict. When we arent aware of our beliefs, our preferences, our judgements, etc.

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Even mental things could fall under this category 'objective'. If something is a common understanding, it is experienced by the individual as a common understanding and compelling them to understand likewise. Therefore, this understanding is an objectively shared event, between those who experience, but apparently, also create.
so people can objectivelly share experiences and understandings. but does that mean that the understandings and experiences themeslves are objective?

i look at it this way. no matter what belief or experience or whatever we are dealing with, EVERY individual deals with that belief or experience in their own way, and has their own perception of that belief/experience. thus the belief might be objective, but the perceptions dealing with that belief are subjective and thus different for every person on this earth. we're all wonderfully unique.

subjective/objective, its semantics. same with good/bad. and same with truth. all these words can be twisted to meet any kind of objective meaning that you wish to assign to them. whats important to me is am i experiencing what i want to experience, and if not, what are the judgments/beliefs/attitudes/perceptions that are stopping me from that. and then it becomes a matter of becoming aware of those judgments/beliefs/etc and changing them to my preference.
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