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Old 11-08-2008, 08:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tedkennedy View Post
primitive cultures were just as cruel if not more viciously brutal... just a few hundred years ago the majority of the human population were slaves or pseudo slave peasants and different groups of people were engaged in constant wars with eachother and within themselves.

human nature is such that people are cruel too each other, just like every living organism on the planet we involved in a Darwinian/Malthusian world where you are in competition with your own species for resources and mates. education, society, equality and democracy try to suppress this instinctual selfishness but it is always there more so in some people. but less developed/less democratic are a lot worse so im happy to live in a reasonably stable place

realizing the fact that people arent inherently good is important because even if you have the most intelligent ideology and you believe in respecting other people the fact is that you are still at the mercy of a person who does not have such nice ideology.

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To say people aren't inherently good is true in the sense of sharing, compassion, and helping others. I don't believe in such a thing as right or wrong, but there is no question that in developed nations like the US, that our system goes against what human nature is; survival.

This idea of trying to make people more compassionate is actually more hurtful to victims. We have to teach victims to strengthen themselves either physically and/or mentally.

PharmGirl, maybe you don't understand because you are a female. It is typical for women to have this utopian view of the world by thinking we can solve the world's problems through understanding and compassion.

And TedKennedy, it's not in our nature to always be cruel. For example, some dogs play friendly with smaller dogs. There is not a single species of animals besides humans that engages in torture. For animals, killing is stricly business, malicious torture is a byproduct of human evolution combined with technology. Humans are the most sadistic and cruel species on Earth.
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