Thanks Farmer & Peace. I have been using CFLs for both phases for the last 2 grows and have been very happy. The heat issue is a big one for me and that is why the switch from HIDs to CFLs. But seeing that they are not up to my height hopes right now I am contemplating bringing out the old reliable HPS for the flowering. I am very impressed with 2 new products I am using; Liquid Light and Hygrozyme. I also have a 90% success rate with the clones from the one I lost to wilt. Thanks again folks, I really appreciate the input.