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**farmergiles** · 02-02-2009, 01:16 AM

@ mothernature- the peeling of the lower part of the stem is so that there is more surface area the clone can take up water from and therefore less chance of dehydration.
I think this also assists with root development. When I do the rockwool cubes later I`ll try 1 or 2 without doing this as a control. I`ve seen people successfully take clones of rose bushes and stuff without the "peeling".
I`ve never heard about the air bubble before. You can keep the cuttings hanging around for quite a while out of any medium as long as they don`t dry out.

@ Xil- good question. Normally it is best to take clones from vegging plants and yes, people do keep momma`s in permanent veg to take clones from. Apparently you can sometimes keep a plant in this state for decades, I`m not sure if there is any definite limit.
Personally I take clones, flower the momma(s), veg the clones, take more clones, flower the momma clones, veg the new clones, take more clones etc. So I don`t have permanent momma clones- I don`t really have space, I`d run out of headroom in my veg cab. My veg cab is under light 24/24. If I had a momma cabinet I`d keep the lights on 18/24 to keep them in veg but slow growth a bit.
You can clone a flowering plant but it takes a while for the cutting to sort itself out and re veg, prolonging the process the longer the parent plant has been in flower.
Sometimes if the leaf nodes were very close together I used to flower them for a few days before taking clones to space the nodes out. I`ve decided this is a bad idea, nowadays I just peel away the lowest nodes to get a bit longer a stem to go into the soil. I don`t bury the leaves as I don`t want any rotting vegetable matter in the soil- IMO this would encourage rot and fungus and stuff.

BTW- of course you can clone a male plant just as easily.

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farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,164 Times in 2,190 Posts	@ mothernature- the peeling of the lower part of the stem is so that there is more surface area the clone can take up water from and therefore less chance of dehydration. I think this also assists with root development. When I do the rockwool cubes later I`ll try 1 or 2 without doing this as a control. I`ve seen people successfully take clones of rose bushes and stuff without the "peeling". I`ve never heard about the air bubble before. You can keep the cuttings hanging around for quite a while out of any medium as long as they don`t dry out. @ Xil- good question. Normally it is best to take clones from vegging plants and yes, people do keep momma`s in permanent veg to take clones from. Apparently you can sometimes keep a plant in this state for decades, I`m not sure if there is any definite limit. Personally I take clones, flower the momma(s), veg the clones, take more clones, flower the momma clones, veg the new clones, take more clones etc. So I don`t have permanent momma clones- I don`t really have space, I`d run out of headroom in my veg cab. My veg cab is under light 24/24. If I had a momma cabinet I`d keep the lights on 18/24 to keep them in veg but slow growth a bit. You can clone a flowering plant but it takes a while for the cutting to sort itself out and re veg, prolonging the process the longer the parent plant has been in flower. Sometimes if the leaf nodes were very close together I used to flower them for a few days before taking clones to space the nodes out. I`ve decided this is a bad idea, nowadays I just peel away the lowest nodes to get a bit longer a stem to go into the soil. I don`t bury the leaves as I don`t want any rotting vegetable matter in the soil- IMO this would encourage rot and fungus and stuff. BTW- of course you can clone a male plant just as easily. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Last edited by farmergiles; 02-02-2009 at 01:24 AM.