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Old 03-13-2009, 03:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Jcp you re confusing God, with people.

People can be bad. God is a father and a (good) father would never do something bad to his children.

God didnt write the old or new testament. Humans did.

Some parts are very wise and others are dogma. Dogma that was carried through the years. Those parts dont apply to todays more open minded spiritual approaches (at least i hope that we re more open minded, although sometimes i have my doubts).
wait, back up.

I was making a completely "devils advocate post" as I don't believe the bible to be anything but a creation myth and a moral code told through personified astrology.

People can be bad, but God would never do something bad to his children? Says who? That's a great belief you have. But that's as proveable (and logical, based on the bible) as me saying God is an eggplant. What would lead you to believe God would never harm his children when he kills a shit-ton of them in the text? When he allows the existence of Hell? When he provides temptation to a consciousness he created (knowing full well it has the potential to be tempted), then punishes his creation for giving into the temptation he tempted it with? That's like what a really dickish kid does to a dog...puts the treat on the dog's nose then if the dog goes to bite it, the kid punches the dog in the nose.

I do not have ANY desire to debate belief with you...you can believe anything you want...but if you apply the same criteria of what makes someone an asshole to the actions of the old testament God, he's a big one...

God in the Old Testament is vindictive and plays mindgames with his subjects...my favorite being the "test of faith" on the mountain.
If a human being behaved in such a way...if you boss made you prove your loyalty to the company by killing your only child...and at the last minute going, "lolz just joshing ya. wanted to see if you would do it" you'd think he was an asshole.
The New Testament God isn't as much of a childish prick as the Old Testament one, but he's still a pretty shallow God. The New New Testament, hopefully, will have a God in his late twenties, early thirties in terms of maturity and behavior to his "children."

So I'm not sure what you're taking issue with with regards to my presentation of an evolving God in the Bible. Would you like a list of reasons I think Old-Testament God is an ass, and New Testament God is a bit more adult (but still pretty silly)?
Or are you just taking issue with me calling your God a childish asshole? I don't mean to offend, but that is my perception of him, according to the available evidence of his action(s)
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