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Originally Posted by xxoozero
I don't. I'm an atheist. I believe in science and what can be proven. I think everything can be explained given the proper investigation and evidence. I also believe that those who believe in a god are foolish and ignoring every single fact ever made in this world ever.
I also think spirituality is crap. I think if you have to look for a higher meaning to why we are here you are missing the bigger picture that is right in front of your face, which is we are here to do whatever makes us personally happy. Smoke weed, blow shit up, drink a bunch of soda, blah blah blah... whatever gets your rocks off.
Religion itself is a scourge on our society. It should be outlawed and the proprietors arrested and charged with thievery and general nogood-doery. The only thing it is good for is controlling the masses to the point of ultimate submission to where the public lets it control every aspect of our personal lives, including where to pee, what to eat on Friday, and how many bombs we strap to ourselves when going to blow up those dirty no good people down the street who believe something different.
Do you believe in god?
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religion is a scourge and people who profess it should be outlawed, but blowing shit up and doing whatever gets your rocks off is what life is about? Thou hast contradicted yourself.
What if belief in God is what gets your rocks off? Wishing or believing in something better than a pointless existence in a limited world?
You are also making a classic mistake I find when speaking to (young) atheists which is confusing the establishment of a religion with a given message of a prophet or personal spiritual development.
Your examples are examples from dogma...which is the foundation of a religion meant to bring people to the same page (no pun intended) for mutual worship. When taken as strict fact and equally important to the larger message, you get fundamentalism.
Instead, the point of "eating X on friday" is to establish ritual...which is very important to a lot of people. It's a way of re-establishing your faith and belief through an act of either denial (I won't eat Y today), or indulgence (today is the day of rest!).
In effect, you're judging the message of religions by the human institutions that try to speak in place of the message itself. That's a very unfortunate mistake.
You also need to define God. I believe there is more to this existence than science has even begun to scratch the surface of. I look at science vs. explaining "everything" as comparable to the size of an atom to the size of this galaxy. God, to me, is whatever the answer to the questions like: "why am I here" "what is my purpose" "why is there something instead of nothing" etc.
I don't know what God is. It could be the laws of the universe, it could be an omnipotent consciousness, I could be God, God could be a giant cucumber. I don't know.
What I do know is that I don't know. And I urge you to reconsider your "atheism" as it is no different than fundamentalism. You state that there is no God. How arrogant, imo.
Science and spirituality are also not contradictory to one another. I believe in science and what can be proven too! I just also happen to believe that in the infinite unknown is something bigger, smarter, and transcendental.
so with that said, what are these "every single fact(s) ever made" that belief in God ignores?
Also, I'm curious...what is your answer to "where did the universe come from?" Remember, if life has come from something, you have to explain where that something came from...so "the big bang" is not a coherent creation point, as the stuff that went bang was already there.