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JcP · 05-28-2009, 10:36 AM

edit: Verk wins the thread. Must have posted that before i finished my post. ROFL>

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Originally Posted by farmergiles

3- You have defined my atheism for me. Please don`t, see above paragraph.
If you perceive atheists as closed minded and elitist how do you think many theists appear to atheists? Most hardline christians and muslims believe that atheists are sinners and go to hell. Fossilization of beliefs.
Also I`ve yet to meet an atheist who would wish to deny anyone else the right to believe or worship as they chose. Such atheists may well exist but most merely wish to be left alone to believe what they want.

Farmergiles, on this point I agree with you. It is not anyone's business defining your beliefs, nor is it your job to define the beliefs of others.

However, almost 100% of atheists I have ever spoken to (until this thread, in fact) have ALWAYS mocked belief in anything other than 'science' as if it explains everything.

And almost 100% of all atheists I have ever spoken to are also quite interested in , as verk put it, "mailbombing" religious traditions and beliefs. Mocking those who believe, trying to use logic to disprove a post-logical concept like God (which is lol), completely avoiding the lack of a creation-force in the universe yet professing the universe began with the big bang, etc.

In effect, I believe this is the first time I've been in the presence of intelligent AND compassionate atheists.

Who are the biggest Atheist "speakers" presently? Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens. Have you ever heard either of these jackasses speak about religion? Dawkins is dumb AND insulting, Hitchens is EXTREMELY smart but also insulting.

So again, as I said to Boddhisatva, if atheism is now being defined as simply not believing in a deist that's great. If atheism is being defined as knowing there is no God, that's fundamentalism.

sorry if this rambled, I just woke up.