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Originally Posted by JcP
you're making the argument that religion leads to atrocity. Which is silly, as billions upon billions of religious people have come and gone without blowing up a temple or a bus. And using the CRUSADES as a parallel to religious traditions today .....
Religion is used as an EXCUSE for action(s) of humans on occasion, but that is not a problem with belief(s), it is a problem with the humans who choose to do the acts.
so I reject this. I'm sure there are PLENTY of atheist criminals out there...is there an al-qaida equivalent in the atheist community? Dunno. Maybe when atheism becomes more mainstream there will be.
This is your first argument that smells bad to me... 
Great. As an agnostic, I agree with this platform. And if I, someone who believes in a higher power, can agree with atheists, then the common definition of atheism (there is no God, this is it), is somehow irrelevant?
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Hmmm I`m not going to provide examples of where religion has been used as an excuse for hatred,war, discrimenation etc this week- just go and buy a newspaper. Religeous bigotry thrives!
Atheism is not and has never been used as an excuse for war, violence, or discrimination- it is non sectarian. That is why there is not and is very unlikely to be an atheist al quaeda. Where did you get that idea from JcP? Dawkins going on about fairy rings or whatever is a far cry from jihad.
Dawkins- yeah he`s a dogmatic reactionary. There are thousands of dogmatic reactionaries in the media. Why does he annoy you particularly? I do actually rate some of his writing about evolution and Darwinism though.
The reason I said that if atheists have a core belief it is separation of state and church is because they don`t necessarily have
any other shared beliefs. Unless disbelief is belief.