Thread: The Void
View Single Post
Old 07-02-2009, 06:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
SageTree
~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~
 
SageTree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: In Love
Posts: 23,414
Blog Entries: 26
Thanks: 13,070
Thanked 6,763 Times in 4,664 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Center View Post
The Rev : I disagree. My consciousness and soul is the void. Just by realising it doesn't diminish it's power at all. If anything, in my experience, it has enhanced it. Aknowledging it and starting to use it for a purpose is what I think it's their for.
I believe the Rev was meaning, when we talk about an insight we begin to put our own consciousness on it and the words begin to change the definition of what the feeling may have really been. Keeping in mind that we use the words to be able to talk about the concept and that the words aren't the concept itself, might be what he is getting at. It's paradoxical to try and talk about something that can lose meaning when we verbalize it, but I recognize the need to relate to each other certainly.

It's like looking at the beauty of a flower with someone else. You can just have that nice feeling about the flower without placing labels on it. But when you go back with your friend to talk about it, you might find that you have two really different vocalizations of the same sense object. On the flip side of that, you can also resound in silence the essence at the core of that experience as well. Therein lies trying to talk about it again

I find that when I try to express my insights to others it doesn't come off as profound sometimes. Rather my actions on the experience often speak much louder to my mental states than my words can capture.

Maybe this is what the Rev was trying to get at. 'Knowing the essence and trying to put words on it is redundant, just live in that essence and know words are just words, not the thing themselves.'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydriasis View Post

Edit: We should have a big meditation thread where we share tips and tricks. I know digitally it isn't so easy to do such a thing and everyone does things differently, but in the very least it'd be interesting.
Captain, go a searching in the SS forum and you will find alot of topics on meditation. There are alot out there, I believe I moved 6+ from the lost forums. Search meditation in the engine, you will find something, or just go back a few pages.
__________________


"What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is."
-Zen Meister my_scatterheart





YaHooka is....
Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy.
Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world.
Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

SageTree is offline   Reply With Quote