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**SageTree** · 07-13-2009, 08:15 PM

"Liberation is only being rid of the idea that there is anyone who needs liberation." - Ramesh Balsekar

I would like to hear you alls take on this quote. I get daily quotes from various religons or teachers and this was today's 'Hindu Wisdom'.

This is taken to mean that we don't exist as an 'I' but rather our perception or mind is what creates the continuity of a self.

The body is a constant rearranging and working of compounded cells, which are made of tinier elemental matter. The mind is observing through the 4 elements in other words and we only attach or build personality based on sensation and stimuli. That is, No inherent 'I' exists, but a changing object with a sense of self. Like a movie ,that isn't one thing, but rather a sequence of small pictures being played very fast, so we are moving so fast we don't sense the moments between this second and that or the rising and falling of all things which is also includes 'I'

To my understanding this quote speaks to seeing that we create the 'I' and observe things personally, rather than impersonally. Which creates likes and dislikes, predispositions. For instance, one is a friend today, and then next instance that friend has become our enemy, because of an offense. If we never try to talk to that person again we may not be able to see first hand that change occures, perhaps this person pleases or appeases our sense of self again and we forget that we were ever mad? Life happening and moving like a bubble in a stream or cloud passing in the sky. Our mind arises again and again with new forms to observe.

Entering with equanimity begins to disolve this 'Self' of 'I' like this and don't like that, with many things in life. The long this practice is maintained to close we come to a true sense of being a thing that can rationalize and feel more connected to all matter rather than feeling indifferent. Past the Self realization is the realization of Selflessness, and to me this is the highest state of experience, this is the 'liberation' to me in the context of this quote.

What do you think ?

07-13-2009, 08:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,763 Times in 4,664 Posts	"Liberation is only being rid of the idea that there is anyone who needs liberation." "Liberation is only being rid of the idea that there is anyone who needs liberation." - Ramesh Balsekar I would like to hear you alls take on this quote. I get daily quotes from various religons or teachers and this was today's 'Hindu Wisdom'. This is taken to mean that we don't exist as an 'I' but rather our perception or mind is what creates the continuity of a self. The body is a constant rearranging and working of compounded cells, which are made of tinier elemental matter. The mind is observing through the 4 elements in other words and we only attach or build personality based on sensation and stimuli. That is, No inherent 'I' exists, but a changing object with a sense of self. Like a movie ,that isn't one thing, but rather a sequence of small pictures being played very fast, so we are moving so fast we don't sense the moments between this second and that or the rising and falling of all things which is also includes 'I' To my understanding this quote speaks to seeing that we create the 'I' and observe things personally, rather than impersonally. Which creates likes and dislikes, predispositions. For instance, one is a friend today, and then next instance that friend has become our enemy, because of an offense. If we never try to talk to that person again we may not be able to see first hand that change occures, perhaps this person pleases or appeases our sense of self again and we forget that we were ever mad? Life happening and moving like a bubble in a stream or cloud passing in the sky. Our mind arises again and again with new forms to observe. Entering with equanimity begins to disolve this 'Self' of 'I' like this and don't like that, with many things in life. The long this practice is maintained to close we come to a true sense of being a thing that can rationalize and feel more connected to all matter rather than feeling indifferent. Past the Self realization is the realization of Selflessness, and to me this is the highest state of experience, this is the 'liberation' to me in the context of this quote. What do you think ? __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance. Last edited by SageTree; 07-13-2009 at 08:21 PM.