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Old 08-06-2009, 07:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by verklingen View Post
i know man i've seen the film. the evil government is out to frighten us into submission with smoke and mirrors. it's a nightmare for sure, but much less powerful than the nightmare of having a government that is actually able to do it!
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i told you to wake up because you told others to wake up when all you're doing is providing a nightmare of your own, and one which i do not feel has a shred of credibility.
First you say that the sham (of Al Queda) is less scary than the government actually being able to frighten us into submission.... then claiming I'm "scaring" folks without a shred of evidence that the gov't is...scary.
Your circular logic is..well..dizzying.




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sure powerful people could WANT to do these things, but if you ask me the opportunity has passed and they're at a loss of what to do. the only support they have is crazed fear-mongering folk such as yourself who are hellbent on perceiving the world as a terrible place in control of terrible people, and that's worth a shitload more concern than neocons, socialists, fascists, bilderburgers, the illuminati or whatever the fuck. believe it or not you're playing into their game!
Tell me. Just exactly what is it you think is going on with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?
You don't seriously think we're there for the betterment of those people. Or do you?


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how is this any worse than what i've been hearing about the patriot act for years?
How is this worse?
It's not about what's worse, it's about showing people who give a fuck what's going on.
Instead of living in perpetual fear that an organized terrorist unit is out to get us, people can begin to see what's really happening.
Of course, with your flippant attitude about being stripped of rights guaranteed by the Constitution, what's a lie on top of that. Right?



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i'm supposed to be in a fema camp by now, what gives?
Honestly couldn't tell you anything about FEMA camps.




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it's not just about searching for and developing technology capable of exploiting new energy resources, we're also becoming a lot smarter about the resources we currently use. 30 years really isn't that long a time at all. . . quit being so short-sighted
We are becoming smarter about using energy? Really? Is that why there are rolling black outs in some areas?
Why China is infusing billions into Iran to secure more oil?
Why we're war mongering to secure what oil reserves we can?
Why the one car that was legitimately battery powered (the EV1) and not a hybrid was pulled and crushed?
Why the NiMH battery has been shelved (by Big Oil that bought the rights to it) in favor of the shorter lived, shorter duration Lithium Ion battery?

Can you be any more clueless to what's going on?

And, on the short sighted part, have you never heard about peak oil?
You know, the part about not being able to pump as much oil as we used to be able to pump because supplies are dropping?
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Six major oil fields in Saudi Arabia, all discovered between 1940 and 1967, produce about 95% of Saudi oil. A single field, Ghawar, which is the worlds largest, was discovered in 1948 and produces up to 60% of the kingdoms total. The Saudis are now having to use intense water-injection techniques to improve production, a technique that can ultimately lead to catastrophic pressure failure.
Yeah...nothing like being short sighted, eh?


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you mean an attempt at a power grab. i see it failing
Where is that you live? Under a rock?
Last I heard, we've established control in both Iraq and Afghanistan, have all the 'Stans in our pockets including Pakistan.
Hell, through treaty, they can't even install a director of the IB (Pakistani version of our CIA) unless we approve the guy.

Of course none of this is about grabbing power.
It's really about human quality of life and supporting, through aid, the betterment of those that are less fortunate. Right?
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