YaHooka Forums - View Single Post - Went to a Vegan restaurant for dinner... and survived.

myxomatosis · 09-25-2009, 08:52 PM

^ Haha, nicely done. I thought about commenting on it from how ridiculous a concept it was rather than how gay it sounded.

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Originally Posted by Hooked

Well, you'll notice I used the term "conscious," but I think you're on for the most part. However, I don't want to eat shit vegetables. The demand for cheap soy for soy meat has led to the destruction of waaaaay too much forested land. Like, tofu is almost as destructive as animal flesh, especially if its popularity continues to grow. And fuck, that's like the standard. Why can't I get tempeh everywhere I eat out but I can get shite tofu?

I dunno, sustainability seems intrinsic to the whole vegetarian/vegan lifestyle, and you fucking pay for it, don't try to tell me otherwise yo. As a generation we're going to have to sacrifice a lot of money to affect any serious change in people's consumption habits, and not just in what they feed themselves.

I'm broke and unemployed, have been for months. I know I couldn't sell me on paying more for my health (and everyone else's, and the planet's) right now.

I did notice that. Conventional vegetables doesn't necessarily equate to "shit vegetables" if that's what you're getting at. If anything the organic ones are the ones with feces. Tofu is not almost destructive as animal flesh, you're thinking of the soybeans sometimes used to make it that which in certain places are grown in a terribly destructive and unsustainable manner, but not as a rule of thumb. I will agree that the methods you are speaking of are disgusting however, but it's my understanding that they aren't as prevalent as you're making them out to be. Personally I've never been much for tempeh so I don't mind not finding it in many places. It's still soy based though so I'm not sure why it'd be better ecologically.

I'm not denying that I worry about sustainability, nor am I saying that I don't sometimes go out of my way to purchase items that are better in that regard, or pay more for said items. I'm saying that as a general rule veg eating doesn't get expensive and certainly not more expensive than a meat based diet until you start branching out into fake meats and processed foods.

I'm pretty much in the same boat with work only coming in real sparingly. I will admit I don't eat as nicely as I'd like in regards to some things, but I've yet to compromise my ethics or generally healthy eating with the exception of the lady forcing me to eat cookies or candy. Oh and the booze, but that's so ridiculously low these days and I still maintain a little poison is good for the soul.