You started it...
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Originally Posted by JcP
stop that.
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Stop what? Exercising my rights? Back from the music topic I noticed you like to argue in an authoritative manner as if you're superior to anyone in here, kind of arrogant in my opinion, and you also never really seem to respond to anything, you just change the subject slightly around.
Like this.
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Asking what they are protesting about is a complete side-tangent of a question to my main point.
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Development of the change right here. Side-tangent? FOCUS ON WHAT MATTERS!
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Peaceful protests you say? Have you not paid any attention to the G-8 and G-20 protests in the past?
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Yes, though I think you haven't, which is obvious since you don't even seem to know what the protests are about. Like someone said, even monks went to protest, are they vandals? Anarchists? Socialists? What social group or ism do you hate? Makes me wonder where you get your news from, do the headlines read something along the lines of "g20 threatend by violent protesters"?
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There's a REASON my friends from Pittsburgh fuckin' LEFT TOWN when this all started.
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They should have stayed, and helped the protesters that were protesting for them. Your friends just fled. They ignored reality, you seem to be very very afraid of reality.
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Don't you remember Seattle a few years ago?
People set fires, threw shit, broke windows, and basically rioted. In Pittsburgh there have already been vandalism incidents and "anarchist" crap all over the place.
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Yeah I remember, where were you? Sitting at home? safe? I guess so, you were hiding at home probably cause vandals and anarchists were on the streets protesting, woooooo...
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So please take my question of "what are they protesting" as a secondary question as intended instead of making that the main affront in your rebuttal.
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Let secondary questions be second, now that we're finished with your tangents and derivatives that stray us from the point that WE AMERICANS HAVE BEEN STRIPPED FROM OUR RIGHTS. So I'll skip all the crap about assholes who call others assholes(more categorization that leads us fucking nowhere, we need unity not segregation) because I don't see how that is irrelevant to anything, on the whole topic. I'll also skip the part about my lack of "credibility" being that what matters here is a video which shows american people being violated and stripped off of their rights. I don't need "credibility" when there is DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE of what I am saying(see first video of OP again). I will also skip the part about "there are also brainless this and brainless that" ceause again it doesn't matter what people are, what matters is YOUR RIGHTS BEING VIOLATED, who is brainless and who is not is just another of your wild tangents straying away from the main point. Lastly I will skip the part about purposes and permits of protests, mainly because IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER, FOCUS, learn to walk before running, step by step, first fight for your right, THEN exercise your right.
So lets address what little does relate to the point:
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I'm pissed at the police, and equally pissed off at these mask wearing idiots who think destruction and violence is a way to get their "message" (whatever it is...) across.
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Destruction and violence is not a way to spread a message, its a way to bring about change, its a fundamental rule of life. If you're pissed about something GO PROTEST, its your right, don't stay home getting fatter, GO PROTEST, demand a change. Thoes people protesting and getting shot at are fighting for YOUR RIGHTS, you should be ashamed of not supporting them because if they ever happen to win and make a change you would benefit from it. Go help, stop telling everyone that its not possible, that is called insularism in my country, to think that we're so weak that we can't stop the injustices of a corrupt government.
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That being said...what would you like "us" to do? What is your planned, thought out, viable solution? You seem to be extremely passionate about the G-20 and police brutality...so I assume you have a solution or a plan? Or are you just raging for raging's sake?
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Questions like this make me lose all hope in america. WHY DO YOU NEED A LEADER TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO? to tell you what is right or wrong? Can't you use your brain to know that killing is bad? Can't you get along with your neighbors without a court order? Can't you just use your brain anymore? Do you need government to tell you what to do, how to do it and how much to pay for it all the time? DAMN.
I am no leader, I can't command you into doing anything, and I won't expect you to follow any order I could give. you have to understand what is going on and act on your own, make up YOUR MIND. If I were to give you any advice, it would be very simple, watch the videos again, and if you think the police violated their right to protest peacefully, GO PROTEST, nothing will ever change if you don't make it change, these things will continue to happen and continue to worsen until the majority of americans inevitably and systematically as it has happened throughout history, GO TO PROTEST!
[quote]You know who you should be mad at? The idiots who riot and cause destruction which leads to the NEED for fucking riot police and "non-lethal" tanks in an American city./quote]
Again, those idiots are protesting for a better world for you, me and everyone. Don't demonize the ONLY people who are sacrificing their time and lives for you, if anything we should sacrifice government officials who we know are corrupt, forget the legal system, they own it, just group together and go burn them on a cross for treason, you can't take down politicians using the courts, they own the courts, stop being a fool, WAKE UP, start up your brain, grab a book or two about history.
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"now" you need a permit to protest? You've needed a permit to protest since before you were born (assuming you're not ancient).
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Probably because your dad or granddad didn't go to protest, haha.
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a supreme court ruling in 1939.
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Do we need to discuss how corrupt the justice deparment is?
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Public space(s) are for the use of ALL, not for the monopolization of a single group, regardless of their message.
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So which is it, can all use it or can no one use it? they(protesters) were using it, and were thrown out of a public space, for using it. Do they have to use it in total silence?
WTF AMERICA? Ii this how the majority of americans think? no wonder the rest of the world hates us and we need nukes to keep them form biting.