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Old 10-24-2009, 02:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I mean sure Fox news is biased but most news agencies are. Why do you people think the white-house would not invite fox-news to cover an announcement but invite every other new's agency?

Isn't that facism, when the government controls the media? All I can say is... Hold on to your hats...

if what I have heard is untrue please let me know, I don't always get my new's straight but this is what I was told and saw on T.V....

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Article - http://www.rcfp.org/newsitems/index.php?i=11081
since the white house does not control the media (as evident by the need to do this), it's not fascism.

Fascism includes a lot more than government controlled media, but it's part of it. And, frankly, Fox News during the bush administration was far more "fascist" than this.

I disagree with not allowing fox to be present for press releases or whatever, but I see nothing wrong at all with calling them out for what they are and refusing to give them interviews or anything else.

the argument being made by the white house (and aptly so, if you ask me), is that Fox News is NOT a news channel...it's an OpEd channel pretending to be a news channel. So they aren't preventing news agencies that trend conservative (the wall street journal, for instance), they are preventing a propoganda channel pretending to be "fair and balanced."
Michael Medved...a pretty stringent GOP talking-head admitted today that Fox needs to either drop the facade of "fair and balanced" and admit who they are, or bring journalism back onto their channel.
Can this argument be made about MSNBC's opinion shows like The Ed Show and Countdown? Sure. But MSNBC pundts ADMIT they are liberal and their shows are OPINION. If Hannity and Beck and O'Reilly would own up to the fact that their shows are not NEWS shows or some sort of objective "fair and balanced" assessment of things, this wouldn't be an issue. But they don't. By the way that leads us to...

Bush white house froze out MSNBC...and the GOP had no problem with that. Shoe's on the other foot and suddenly it's armageddon.

Personally, I think it's a wonderful opportunity for conservatives to learn their lesson(s) about how it feels to be on the other side of the equation and not repeat the behavior in the future.

the "neo-con" view of the world is not based on facts. It's based on belief and emotion (see: Glen Beck). Naturally, Neo-con thinking leads to the view that ALL MEDIA is LIBERAL. Fox News is simply a refuge for those unable to accept the fact that reality has an apparent "liberal" bias as Stephen Colbert once aptly noted.
MSNBC's opinion programming is definately liberal. Their NEWS, however, is not. Fox's newscasts contain the kind of crap that makes thinking men cringe..."terrorist fist jab" being my all time favorite.

CNN has frickin Lou Dobbs...but they're part of the liberal agenda. MSNBC has Joe Scarborough...but they are "in on it." There is not a single liberal voice on Fox News, minus the occasional "guest" who gets mocked or asked obscenely ridiculous questions like "do you hate America."

I watch Fox News on occasion (Hannity being the only one on that channel who I truly cannot sit through), and it's FASCINATING that people watch it as news.
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