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Originally Posted by Mr Mister
Clearly, you don't understand what the conservative position actually is. First of all, if a state refuses the public option, their citizens still have to pay the taxes that will pay for the public option. I would be surprised if more than a half dozen states actually refuse the public option since their citizens should riot after being forced to pay a tax that they aren't getting any sort of benefit from. By the way, if you think taxes won't go up, you're a fool.
You mention personal freedom. For a conservative, personal freedom means freedom of the individual, not freedom of the smaller group (a state in this case). Conservatives oppose public health care because it should limit a given individual's choice of doctors, hospitals, or treatments. (I don't know if that will actually be a problem or not. It depends a lot on implementation.)
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what's wrong with the public option in the first place? you say choice of doctors, hospitals and treatments will be limited. . . how is it not limited already? this is so fucking stupid and i'm sick of hearing this retarded argument. are you saying people who take the public option (only people who are not currently insured will be eligible btw) will be limited in their choices? maybe so, but they have no choices now. or do you mean people covered privately will be limited in their choices? as i said this is already the case. please stfu with this retarded bullshit. everything you're saying is rehashed from months ago when this whole debate started and i've been hearing it over and over. you are not the first to come here and repeat this drivel, but maybe you can be the first to admit how stupid it makes you seem