i was wondering, what is the rate of loss of vigor as the generation of yourclones rises? While i grow bonsai moms so all my cuttings are x1 clones, cuttings i've given away have been used as moms and one friend (who seems incapable of growing a decent mom, he always ends up with these nasty leggy moms) is on his x5 mom. I cans see for myself that his plants are less vigorus than my cuttings...the difference is really only noticeable up to 3-4 internode