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Old 11-28-2009, 12:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by celestialpillow View Post
I have a feeling in my heart all the time that there is a realm above heaven. ... "Guide the vision to heaven"
Thank you for sharing this thought, celestialpillow. Could it be that "heaven" has multiple levels? Your post reminded me of this verse from the Bible:
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. (2Corinthians 12:2)
A look at the Greek is a bit more clear. This seems to be a third eye / mental vision + out-of-body experience that identifies that there are at least three heavens, or, perhaps, levels to heaven, without setting any limits.

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Originally Posted by hijabihippie View Post
Kabbalah speaks of this.
I don't know much about Kaballah, but I am interested. Chokmah, Binah, Da'ath and Keter especially grabbed my attention. The sephiras seem like they relate to Kundalini and the chakras. Will you please talk a little about how Kaballah speaks of heaven(s), and whatever else you care to share?

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Originally Posted by verklingen View Post
our body is an expression of consciousness, and therefor resides within our consciousness. "heaven" involves expanding one's consciousness into beyond bodily focus, thereby realizing a wider sphere of influence that is always present but as of now remains untapped. it's here/there already, simultaneously within the physical and beyond it, just as you are. meditation trains you to see it
Very interesting! Have you ever felt/perceived/experienced that expansion yourself?
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