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Whatever he offers you, ask for more, until he stops giving you more, just basically do a "idk man i think i could get more some other place" and throw in a "idk man that seems kinda steep" or even a "idk man that seems like a rip-off" if he gave you a high price and you seem to know what your doing, he'll lower, if he gave you a good price, he won't give you a lower one, don't be too firm but try to figure out which one it is, if he threatens to leave, stay with the price/amount you asked for until he really starts to leave, then it should be a good enough price/amount to not be much of a rip off.
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