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Originally Posted by John F. Kerry
i never said a single thing about the iranian people except that i supported them and thought that people like neda deserved credit for fighting against an oppressive regime just like people across eastern europe and china did in the 80s, the eastern europeans got freedom, the chineese got shot at, - which course did iran follow?
so is it any wonder that china is the only security council country not demanding stronger action against iran?
some people dont seem to realize (not u, the anti war liberals) that dealing with iran toughly now is to AVOID WAR LATER, not to be puffchested and arrogant and mission acomplished republican style. we have waited 10 years almost patiently as they (the supreme leader and ahmadinejad) just dance around and lie to us and say they want regimes to dissapear from history and saying that mass murders of the 20th century didnt happen, its just ridiculous, it doesnt belong in the civilized world....when saudi arabia doesnt stand up to defend you anymore, u know u have a fucked up country your dealing with .... and iran under the ayatollahs and ahmadinejad IS fucked up.
the people that some of u are talking about - lets see- what are the doing- they are demanding an end to the corrupt regime that rigs every election and uses a fake mandate to bring their ancient 5000 year old nation into a war with the rest of the world- the persian people dont want that, and so i dont see how u equate supporting ahmadinejad with supporting them.
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The problem with our hypocritical foreign policy is that there are far more opressive regimes in the region and they are our allies. We don't give a flying fuck about the "neda's" of the world unless we can use them to futher our agenda.
Dealing "toughly" with Iran means cutting off 40% of their energy needs. That in itself is an act of war. Iran was willing to deal in 2003 but bush and cheney would have none of it so I don't know who was doing the dancing around. So what if they say they want regime change? Do we have that market cornered? And who gives a fuck if ahmandinejad denies the holocaust. I could give a shit if he denies there is a Tuesday, it certainly doesn't disqualify them from belonging to the civilized world. When did saudi arabia stand up for Iran?
Rigged elections? There's that hypocrisy again. We support the 2nd most corrupt government in the world in Afghanistan. Only Somalia stands in the way, but they shouldn't even count. Compared to Afghanistan's recent joke of an election, Iran's looks squeaky clean. We also support Egypts oppressive regime, that one could only imagine how they would quell any demonstrations, but they play nice with israel so that's ok.