Levels of sexual connection..

Mescalito · 10-11-2011, 08:40 AM

http://alternativeapproaches.com/mag.../spiritual.htm

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Each level is sex-positive and life-affirming and has a value in healing. Each type of sexual energy can heal at the physical, relational or cosmic level. They are not sharply delineated one from the other but are on a continuum of energy generated and energy received, activating various energy centers in the body. They differ from each other in the purpose and meaning attributed to the sexual interaction.

Genital Pleasuring

Genital pleasuring refers to the energy level generated, not the particular physical activity. The feminine way of genital pleasuring, especially, attends to the sensual process unfolding rather than a race towards orgasm. The energy received through genital pleasuring is manifested in physical sensations of intense pleasure. Orgasm at the level of genital pleasuring is a release of tension. Healing at this level of sexual energy is directed towards physical functions. Orgasm benefits the immune system and also promotes relaxation and a sense of well-being. The purpose is recreation; to play, enjoy the moment and relax in the pleasures of physical stimulation. It is mutually beneficial, consensual pleasure.

Conscious Loving

This level of sexual energy generates intense, loving feelings for the partner. The “valley orgasm,” as it is called in the Tantric tradition, goes beyond the release of tension in genital orgasm. It requires practice in relaxing into sexual feelings and slowing down the build up of tension in order to prevent sudden dissipation of sexual energy. The energy received is divine love. The heart chakra rather than the genital chakra becomes the focal point. The practice of conscious loving generates energy from the heart. The meaning of this level of sexual energy is connection, reinforcing commitment in a long-term relationship. The healing comes from loving communion, enhancing the bond with the partner. Conscious loving facilitates balancing male-female energy in the relationship that is very effective for maintaining harmony between partners.

Spiritual Union

The energy generated by this level of sexuality is ecstasy. The meaning of Spiritual Union is enhanced awareness, inspiration and merging with the Life Force. The purpose for sexuality at this level is to unite with the Source. The energy received at this level is inspiration/illumination that can be translated into divine guidance or simply experienced as pure bliss. Cosmic orgasm is a completely different experience because it is multi-dimensional and has an infinite variety of patterns. Genital Pleasuring and Conscious Loving are not separate from this experience but incorporated as an integral part of it.

If you choose to practice this with a partner, you will need to communicate clearly with each other about your expectations. It is important to recognize that your experiences of transcendence will be unique from your partner’s. However, it is helpful to feel a conscious bond with your partner. You will need to foster the psychological mind set of healing and mutual empowerment in a setting which honors the other as divine God/Goddess.

Thoughts?

Mescalito · 10-12-2011, 08:25 PM

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Sir-Ex · 10-12-2011, 08:57 PM

Thoughts?

I wish I had a lover!!!

Mescalito · 10-12-2011, 09:23 PM

Maybe you could form a spiritual union with your hand for the mean time!?

Anyway...

Sir-Ex · 10-12-2011, 09:49 PM

Because I don't make a strong first impression and women seem to be trained not to have attention spans.

Lame excuse?

Perhaps I need to work on my up front bullshit to keep someone interested long enough to actually get to know me.

There was one girl I totally clicked with a little while ago, she was something else, but she lives like 400km from me.

Sir-Ex · 10-12-2011, 09:58 PM

ps; i don't mean trained like a dog, i mean like a train of thought. Girls seem to judge you up and down in the span of a few minutes at the most. I've never been the sort to lay it on. Used to do that.. it doesn't feel like me.

Mescalito · 10-12-2011, 10:13 PM

I see. Quite the tricky dilemma. What do you think it is about your first impressions that 'put women off?' Next time you meet someone.. maybe ask them what they thought about you at first.. it could reveal some useful information at the least and at the most could get the conversation going long enough to merit interest.

M

Sir-Ex · 10-12-2011, 11:27 PM

I think I come across as very disinterested at first. I've had a few girls tell me that.

Which is true. Unless there's something very particular about them I am disinterested until I get to know them better. It's just that it takes time to get to know someone. Because of this I end up sleeping with coworkers, which can get tricky, and isn't good job practice. So at this job I've been careful not to sleep with any of them.

Except I agreed to take two of them skiing with me alone next month, and it's obvious where that's leading to.

I guess getting sex isn't a problem. It's finding someone to love that's hard for me.

Sir-Ex · 10-12-2011, 11:37 PM

I'm really beating around the bush here.

Lol no pun intended.

Truth is I'm still wary of falling in love again. Being in love was such a strong experience for me that the pain of losing it still freaks me out a bit.

I know that I could find it. It's more of an annoying subconscious decision on my part as opposed to just not being able to.

Mescalito · 10-12-2011, 11:54 PM

Now that IS lame. Come on man.. you should probably know as well as I do that to take no risks at all is the worse risk you can take. Joke.. But seriously yo..

The skiing threesome should be great though! heh

Your time will come for you though.. for sure man. You seem like really cool dude.

M

deadhead94 · 10-13-2011, 03:53 AM

Sex is for reproduction. We make it fun.

It has about as much of a connection to spirituality as the Large Hadron Collider.

The flood of serotonin, dopamine and oxytocin cause apparent emotional responses (ie; love, euphoria etc...).

msicidron · 10-13-2011, 04:38 AM

you're a downer. everything anyone's ever experienced was just chemical reactions in their brain, but they are in response to real events so... what's your point?

deadhead94 · 10-13-2011, 04:49 AM

The point is the chemicals are responsible for the great feeling of sex and any related phenomena. Not some superstitious mumbo jumbo about "energy levels" and spirits.

Mescalito · 10-13-2011, 07:17 AM

So the inevitable question.. define spiritual.. if you state it isn't a spiritual experience then surely you know what one is.

M

Canuck Wisdom · 10-13-2011, 07:55 AM

Your pretty dense Deadhead. For someone who makes statements like he knows whats up, you seem to have built up a pretty solid wall around understanding the human experience.

I.e. prove to me that its not the spiritual experience of a loving bond consummated that causes those chemicals in the brain to be released so that the body can stay in tune with what the soul or even the conscious mind is experiencing. Chicken and the egg etc.

Or is it just a method for garnering attention on the boards?

**SageTree** · 10-13-2011, 07:58 AM

!!!! Oil and Water ALERT!!!!

Talking spirituality w/ deadhead, no offense... isn't going to go very far.

Edit: This is why-

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Originally Posted by Canuck Wisdom

Your pretty dense Deadhead. For someone who makes statements like he knows whats up, you seem to have built up a pretty solid wall around understanding the human experience.

Or is it just a method for garnering attention on the boards?

Mescalito · 10-13-2011, 08:00 AM

With a little lubrication they could get on.

M

**SageTree** · 10-13-2011, 08:09 AM

May take a lot of lube when this is what we're working with:

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Originally Posted by deadhead94

I can entertain the idea of god. I just can't bring myself to assume that it exists with absolutely no proof whatsoever.

**uhhem.. cough cough**

See the rest of the conversation if you'd like... but I'm not sure this word play dance of is and isn't labeling is our time best spent.

Canuck Wisdom · 10-13-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir-Ex

Because I don't make a strong first impression and women seem to be trained not to have attention spans.

Lame excuse?

Perhaps I need to work on my up front bullshit to keep someone interested long enough to actually get to know me.

There was one girl I totally clicked with a little while ago, she was something else, but she lives like 400km from me.

Ive read somewhere and I think its got some truth to it. People, but moreso women, tend to make a decision within the first few seconds of meeting you, whether or not they are sexually interested. This is of course not an absolute.

Ive read things, and watched shows, about 'how to pick up women', and while they might have some useful tips, I find them all somewhat discredited because they tend to approach women as though theyre programmed robots, and if you flick the right switches the right way, they'll want you. Im sure there is some truth in their tricks, but excuse me, women are human beings with conscious minds just like men, and however their body feels they still make conscious decisions.

Ive seen things where they go on about how you, or the guy talking, can convince any woman to sleep with him even if she has a boyfriend/husband. What an asshole.

I know its cliche, and not that Im a pro-expert, but confidence is the most attractive quality for women. When I was in highschool I had a friend or two (girls) tell me that I came across uninterested in sex too. Which of course wasn't true. ... Im just too hot for most women

Sir-Ex · 10-13-2011, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mescalito

Now that IS lame. Come on man.. you should probably know as well as I do that to take no risks at all is the worse risk you can take. Joke.. But seriously yo..

The skiing threesome should be great though! heh

Your time will come for you though.. for sure man. You seem like really cool dude.

M

Oh yeah I'm totally aware that it's me right now. And really I'm cool with it for now, my time will come.

and thanks, should be a good trip to the mountains

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Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,413 Thanks: 1,725 Thanked 3,816 Times in 2,256 Posts	Because I don't make a strong first impression and women seem to be trained not to have attention spans. Lame excuse? Perhaps I need to work on my up front bullshit to keep someone interested long enough to actually get to know me. There was one girl I totally clicked with a little while ago, she was something else, but she lives like 400km from me. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

10-12-2011, 09:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,413 Thanks: 1,725 Thanked 3,816 Times in 2,256 Posts	ps; i don't mean trained like a dog, i mean like a train of thought. Girls seem to judge you up and down in the span of a few minutes at the most. I've never been the sort to lay it on. Used to do that.. it doesn't feel like me. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

10-12-2011, 10:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mescalito Oneironaut Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,281 Thanks: 855 Thanked 906 Times in 443 Posts	I see. Quite the tricky dilemma. What do you think it is about your first impressions that 'put women off?' Next time you meet someone.. maybe ask them what they thought about you at first.. it could reveal some useful information at the least and at the most could get the conversation going long enough to merit interest. M

10-12-2011, 11:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,413 Thanks: 1,725 Thanked 3,816 Times in 2,256 Posts	I think I come across as very disinterested at first. I've had a few girls tell me that. Which is true. Unless there's something very particular about them I am disinterested until I get to know them better. It's just that it takes time to get to know someone. Because of this I end up sleeping with coworkers, which can get tricky, and isn't good job practice. So at this job I've been careful not to sleep with any of them. Except I agreed to take two of them skiing with me alone next month, and it's obvious where that's leading to. I guess getting sex isn't a problem. It's finding someone to love that's hard for me. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

10-12-2011, 11:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,413 Thanks: 1,725 Thanked 3,816 Times in 2,256 Posts	I'm really beating around the bush here. Lol no pun intended. Truth is I'm still wary of falling in love again. Being in love was such a strong experience for me that the pain of losing it still freaks me out a bit. I know that I could find it. It's more of an annoying subconscious decision on my part as opposed to just not being able to. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

10-12-2011, 11:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mescalito Oneironaut Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,281 Thanks: 855 Thanked 906 Times in 443 Posts	Now that IS lame. Come on man.. you should probably know as well as I do that to take no risks at all is the worse risk you can take. Joke.. But seriously yo.. The skiing threesome should be great though! heh Your time will come for you though.. for sure man. You seem like really cool dude. M

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msicidron vibing Join Date: May 2007 Location: North America Posts: 959 Thanks: 229 Thanked 157 Times in 122 Posts	you're a downer. everything anyone's ever experienced was just chemical reactions in their brain, but they are in response to real events so... what's your point? __________________ \|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|

10-13-2011, 07:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mescalito Oneironaut Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,281 Thanks: 855 Thanked 906 Times in 443 Posts	So the inevitable question.. define spiritual.. if you state it isn't a spiritual experience then surely you know what one is. M

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Mescalito Oneironaut Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,281 Thanks: 855 Thanked 906 Times in 443 Posts	With a little lubrication they could get on. M

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