link to really good drug war documentary - Page 3

Prophet Saddam · 03-19-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tedkennedy

American Drug War: the last White hope - Pre-Release Cut - Xvid/ (download torrent) - TPB

downloaded at like 700 kb/s for me.

it encompasses basically everything you could ever need to know about the war on drugs. from how the cia facilitated the importation of cocaine for crack, to how we spend 20 billion dollars a year on the war on drugs and drugs are cheaper and more prevalent then ever, the privitization of the prison system so keeping people in jail is profitable, how the heads of our governments drug policies are complete douschebag liars.

i highly recommend it. its 1.46 gigs, but as i said it downloaded very fast, is good quality and definetly worth a watch.

knowledge is power my brothers.

Thanks for posting!

Really good so far, and I'm only a couple minutes in.

tedkennedy · 03-19-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fenderbender

drugs cheaper now then they used to be? bullshit

...sigh.... ok let me explain

just because you (or people you know) pay like 60 dollars for an eighth of marijuana that doesnt mean the average price of illicit drugs hasnt decreased over time. any experience a single person has had with drugs is by no means a representation of trends in the mean drug price over time. thats like saying global warming doesnt exist because its a cold day outside. there are people who pay anywhere from nothing to 600 dollars an oz of marijuana in the united states. however there is an average price, the drug market has been studied by organizations such as the dea for years.

however id think the statement mainly pertains to hard drugs, like cocaine and heroin because they have the most stable open market prices, and unlike marijuana most hard drugs get imported from other countries so price is mainly dictated by availability. it is a fact that the purity, availability have increased and thus price has decreased over the past 20 years. you can do a brief google search and learn that for yourself in like 5 minutes.

marijuana differs from the hard drugs in that a) marijuana can come in very high grade types which are expensive because they are expertly grown b) like any other drug, on the lowest level people usually end up getting ripped off, and with many drug naive people smoking marijuana, many of them get ripped off. there really isnt a open air market for marijuana, its usually just dealers who personally know people whom they sell to, because marijuana is a much more casual drug. plus the fact that anyone can grow marijuana. with heroin and cocaine, you have dealers that are like business men. they slash prices and market their drugs just like any other business. they use stamps to identify their product, they set up locations convienent for the customer, etc. it is because there is so much competition between heroin dealers that the prices go so low, to attract customers, because if someone is known for having good dope all the junkies go to them and they have a monopoly on all the junkies in an area. basically im just saying how hard drugs have a much more leveled out open air drug market where average price is more stable.

also, the drug price used in these reports are for open air drug markets, not the price some bratty teenage dealers sell drugs at. drug price depends on the region, availability, and how many middle men are ripping you off inbetween you and the source. in highschools of course you are going to get ripped off no matter what, but go to the streets of the ghetto where the real dealers are, and you will find drugs at their real value.

ok, well, unless you can try to convince me otherwise with information that contradicts all available sources of legitimate information, i hope you can understand that drug prices have decreased over time.

Linkey · 03-19-2008, 03:45 PM

i just watched the whole thing. it was pretty good. thanks for posting it tk

tedkennedy · 03-19-2008, 03:46 PM

^ np broseph

fenderbender · 03-19-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tedkennedy

...sigh.... ok let me explain

just because you (or people you know) pay like 60 dollars for an eighth of marijuana that doesnt mean the average price of illicit drugs hasnt decreased over time. any experience a single person has had with drugs is by no means a representation of trends in the mean drug price over time. thats like saying global warming doesnt exist because its a cold day outside. there are people who pay anywhere from nothing to 600 dollars an oz of marijuana in the united states. however there is an average price, the drug market has been studied by organizations such as the dea for years.

however id think the statement mainly pertains to hard drugs, like cocaine and heroin because they have the most stable open market prices, and unlike marijuana most hard drugs get imported from other countries so price is mainly dictated by availability. it is a fact that the purity, availability have increased and thus price has decreased over the past 20 years. you can do a brief google search and learn that for yourself in like 5 minutes.

marijuana differs from the hard drugs in that a) marijuana can come in very high grade types which are expensive because they are expertly grown b) like any other drug, on the lowest level people usually end up getting ripped off, and with many drug naive people smoking marijuana, many of them get ripped off. there really isnt a open air market for marijuana, its usually just dealers who personally know people whom they sell to, because marijuana is a much more casual drug. plus the fact that anyone can grow marijuana. with heroin and cocaine, you have dealers that are like business men. they slash prices and market their drugs just like any other business. they use stamps to identify their product, they set up locations convienent for the customer, etc. it is because there is so much competition between heroin dealers that the prices go so low, to attract customers, because if someone is known for having good dope all the junkies go to them and they have a monopoly on all the junkies in an area. basically im just saying how hard drugs have a much more leveled out open air drug market where average price is more stable.

also, the drug price used in these reports are for open air drug markets, not the price some bratty teenage dealers sell drugs at. drug price depends on the region, availability, and how many middle men are ripping you off inbetween you and the source. in highschools of course you are going to get ripped off no matter what, but go to the streets of the ghetto where the real dealers are, and you will find drugs at their real value.

ok, well, unless you can try to convince me otherwise with information that contradicts all available sources of legitimate information, i hope you can understand that drug prices have decreased over time.

k

im not readin more then the first sentance of that cause its way too long...

bro im not even talkin about the 60 and eighth bullshit... im just going by peoples experience who actually lived in that time...unlike you...

"back in my day youd pay 5 dollars for a whole ziplock bag full" etc etc

now if you said something important agreeing with my statements in your fuckin essay then i apologize or w/e

fenderbender · 03-19-2008, 05:55 PM

and i was just talkin about mary J idk if you brought that up or not either

kamikazi89 · 03-19-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by phat pharmer

i'm going to try this one day

for the Gov.
RIP

SublimeStylez · 03-20-2008, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fenderbender

k

im not readin more then the first sentance of that cause its way too long...

bro im not even talkin about the 60 and eighth bullshit... im just going by peoples experience who actually lived in that time...unlike you...

"back in my day youd pay 5 dollars for a whole ziplock bag full" etc etc

now if you said something important agreeing with my statements in your fuckin essay then i apologize or w/e

maybe you should read it before making another dumbass comment. TK explained it perfectly. and ever heard of inflation fuckface?

aft3rsh0kk · 03-20-2008, 02:44 PM

awesome vid tk, thx for sharing

if it wasnt for the rocks here in az, id be planning on moving to amsterdam

Krunk · 03-20-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tedkennedy

its so fucking pathetic how reagan was so anti-drug, yet under him the CIA and our government basically gave deals with any pro-american government that if they fought off the communist they could sell drugs in america.

then they used to the blacks as a scapegoat, instead of going after the south american dictators and the cia agents who were involved they took down rickie ross, who was the biggest black dealer on teh west coast of crack. his source was a dude who was working with the contra coupe in some south american country, he basically came to america, facilitated by the cia and given free range to sell cocaine in america, and he sent back money to his country so his coupe would fight the communist government.

anyway im basically just commenting on one of things that is shown in the movie. i always knew the cia was fucked but i never really knew the details. and its just really fucked up how corrupt and warped our country is.

/edit: BUT REMEMBER KIDS, REAGAN SAYS TO JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS! CRACK IS WACK! (that is unless its profits are supporting brutal violence and war in foreign countries while simultaneously oppressing the undesirable black population).

:finger:

fenderbender · 04-01-2008, 05:05 PM

bump...

just watched it finally and it was a damn good documentary... highly recommend it

fenderbender · 04-01-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fenderbender

k

im not readin more then the first sentance of that cause its way too long...

bro im not even talkin about the 60 and eighth bullshit... im just going by peoples experience who actually lived in that time...unlike you...

"back in my day youd pay 5 dollars for a whole ziplock bag full" etc etc

now if you said something important agreeing with my statements in your fuckin essay then i apologize or w/e

and yea sorry bout that TK i actually just read what you posted and you explained what you ment perfectly

mah bad nig

Linkey · 04-01-2008, 05:09 PM

the tent city sheriff from this movie always cracks me up. it's so sad, but you have to admit that he's a funny guy other than being extremely ignorant.

SmokeSomeDoja · 04-01-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cheeseking

Google had this video up a few weeks ago when I watched it, but it looks like they took it down. Its an awesome documentary and I reccomend that everybody watch it.

The clip of ex-LAPD Michael Ruppert calling out the head of the CIA during that press conference was amazing.

he wrote a good book about how cheney was behind 9/11, if you are interested.

Geeno · 04-01-2008, 05:40 PM

im not, thanks though

SmokeSomeDoja · 04-01-2008, 05:57 PM

i didnt ask you, dickwad

Human-yo · 04-01-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeSomeDoja

i didnt ask you, dickwad

be nice.

tedkennedy · 04-01-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry

This threads funny because ted basically let the movie tell him what to think.

i already had my opinion on the war on drugs, the documentary merely supplemented my knowledge?

care to battle me? i will pummel you with my supreme knowledge of all things

Seeds&Stems · 04-01-2008, 06:15 PM

ted how is it up there?

Geeno · 04-01-2008, 06:15 PM

politics as usual

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Linkey . Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,463 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 425 Thanked 235 Times in 75 Posts	i just watched the whole thing. it was pretty good. thanks for posting it tk

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Linkey . Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,463 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 425 Thanked 235 Times in 75 Posts	the tent city sheriff from this movie always cracks me up. it's so sad, but you have to admit that he's a funny guy other than being extremely ignorant.

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