OldMan&TheWeed

Denial of Federal Benefits Program

http://www.ncjrs.org/txtfiles/denybene.txt

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"One of the best effects Marijuana can have in any terminal illness
is to produce a degree of euphoria which boosts morale in a depressing situation"
~ Dr. Anthony Henman

1. http://www.yahooka.com/forum/politic...l#post51744566

2. http://www.yahooka.com/forum/politic...l#post51744567

3. http://www.yahooka.com/forum/politic...l#post51744569


Originally Posted by stateofkane

Dozer McDozer

Sir, i apologize for my post which added nothing to the original topic... It was not the first time i've leapt without lookin here and at the time i had to say something so forgive me. It was not intended to be malicious, but of course the "gimme a break" and "good grief" were over the top. However, despite my short life and all my shortcomings, i spoke(although this is hardly equal to actual speaking) from the heart and my own experience--the herb was merely a way to escape like so many things.

My dad simply says my aunt who tried to kill herself is ill... Depression is not a disease.

Don't listen to me. I am just a kid. Who does not know a thing. Do not consider what words and teachings have come from the east along with cannabis. Do not even though they align with western thought and psychology. Do not use your mind. Do not control your own thoughts and emotions... Do.

Well i have nothing more to say because many many people have said things that hold more weight than what i say. I'm just an ignorant, malicious creep on teh internetz after all.

Sorry for saying nothing at all about the original topic other tahn fuck the government. Oh and fuck you old people its your fault the country is the way it is... But no thats only partly true... Governments fault more so, but seriously... stupid hippies.

Damnit why do i have the two conflictiing emotions of compassion and hate. ARRRRGGHHH i must be bi-polar!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH H

god damnit i promise you old fucks weed will be free one day.

"Hey La-dy! Can you spare any change!"

"Screamin' for change!"

move along people nothin to see here.

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I'm listening.

I hear the sound of one hand clapping.

patriot

Very nice of Daddy Bush who was former Drug Czar under Ronnie to help enact these laws to help keep us safe. I'm trying to figure out why the agency he used to be a director of was still importing cocaine, heroin, and marijuana into the country with no fear of arrest. They are still doing that.

Your tax dollars at work-against all of us.

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We can't be using plants that come from the Lord for beneficial purposes. Now hurry up, or we'll be late for church.

The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.-Adolf Hitler

Legalizing marijuana won't grow our economy-Barack Hussein Obama 2009

farmergiles

While there are for sure many sponging on welfare, how is drug testing going to stop this? It`s easy to test for mj but hard to test for meth, crack or opiates. And liquor isn`t illegal.

It`s all starting to remind me of George Orwell or Ray Bradbury.

Same old jingoistic bullshit- demonizing immigrants and terrorists- if we can blame welfare moms, Arabs and Mexicans for the present fuck up then no one will notice the real causes.

Drug testing- heck why stop there? Put them all in work camps. Work makes you free don`t you know?

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wellfleation

Lets punish the poor.

What some people don't realize is how great it is being poor, not having to work or have a purpose. I'm sure they would rather be poor than have to suffer like all those millionaires who will now have to pay a little more under Obama. I feel so sad for these unfortunate people. I feel your pain! Maybe all those who received stimulas money should have to pass a drug test or give the money back. I love the double standard where people are always outraged about the most vulnerable people in our society while the most powerful people/corporations can murder people/ruin lives and walk away and these same people say little or nothing. Capitalism at its finest!

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Contemporary American homeless and 'welfare' programs are designed to provide full employment to 12-step faith healers, nothing else matters. It is a wanton violation of the separation of church and state.

Guest

This story caught my attention. They, most likely, will end up homeless and will be tortured by their local homeless concentration camp (government homeless services). All to force this man to take synthetic heroin pain-killers...

The Visalia Times-Delta | April 9, 2009

Visalia man arrested on pot charges released

Visalian was growing pot to treat pain from arthritis

BY DAVID CASTELLON
dcastell@visalia.gan nett.com

A week and a half after being released from jail, Richard Daleman still was trying to adjust to freedom after a jury found him not guilty of drug charges.

But relief isn't what the 61-year-old man was feeling as he walked around his home north of Visalia. Daleman expressed anger and confusion over his arrest and trial for growing and selling marijuana even though a doctor had recommended that he grow and use the drug to treat his chronic pain.

He had renewed his medical marijuana identification card with the Tulare County Office of Health and Human Services the morning of Dec. 16. Afterward, he came home to find several county sheriff's cars parked in front of his home.

Deputies serving a search warrant reported finding 12.3 pounds of processed marijuana in a variety of jars and large bags that Tulare County prosecutors would bring into court during Daleman's March trial.

He was charged with two counts each of possessing marijuana for sale and cultivating marijuana.

Nothing to hide

Deputies had paid an earlier visit in October.

Daleman not only admitted growing the plants, he showed deputies the marijuana he'd recently harvested in his backyard garden, along with several new plants he had beneath grow-lights in a trailer. He was comfortable doing so because in 1996, California voters passed the Compassionate Use of Marijuana Act, which allows those with a doctor's recommendation to possess and grow marijuana.

"I thought I was finally doing something right," he said.

After the December arrest, Daleman would stay in jail — with the exception of a two-day release and re-arrest because of a clerical error in the county's jail system — until the end of his trial in March.

Why he was arrested and tried remains unclear to Daleman, who grew marijuana to treat pain from arthritis in his knees and old injuries to his shoulder and ankle.

Unlike some patients, Daleman didn't smoke the drugs. Instead, he processed it so he could mix it with food or take it in other forms, including as a suppository.

"I didn't use it like drug addicts," he said.

Daleman's Tulare County public defender, Andy Rubinger, said his client was always innocent of the charges.

"He had two recommendations from two separate doctors giving him recommendations to ingest, grow and consume marijuana," Rubinger said.

Daleman was charged with selling marijuana even though sheriff's detectives never offered evidence of any sales, he said.

"They just said he had too much of it [so] he must be a drug dealer," Rubinger said.

Apparently, a jury agreed with Rubinger's arguments. But the lawyer said it was Daleman's sincerity on the witness stand that won the case.

Problems far from over

Daleman can't afford standard pain medicines. Judge Darryl Ferguson ordered that 6 pounds of the confiscated marijuana be returned, Daleman said, but the Tulare County District Attorney's Office has blocked his attempts to get it back. All he can afford now is aspirin — not for pain, but because he fears he might suffer a heart attack because of high blood pressure he believes he developed over the stress of being arrested and jailed.

Prosecutors said they aren't trying to keep Daleman from the medication to which he's entitled.

"We're happy to follow whatever the judge orders," Assistant District Attorney Don Gallian said. "We'll be happy to give him back the 6 pounds."

The problem, he said, is that Ferguson ordered that "up to" 6 pounds be returned.

"The defense wants us to pick the best of the 6 pounds," Gallian said. "And we don't do stuff like that."

A hearing is set for April 15 to decide the matter.

The government's take

Gallian said he wouldn't comment on why his office prosecuted Daleman despite the doctor's recommendation.

"I really can't go into that because Mr. Daleman has been found not guilty," he said. "We review the facts of the case and we base our decision on what has been presented to us."

The Tulare County Sheriff's Department did not respond Wednesday to a request to discuss cases involving medical marijuana. Daleman said he not only suffers stress and health problems from his time in jail, but also came home to find a foreclosure notice had been issued against his house. He had made a living doing work on building custom cars as well as breeding and selling parrots, but his wife had to sell a large number of his birds at drastically reduced prices in order to make ends meet while he was in jail.

Now, Daleman said, he's trying to negotiate with his lender to save his home.

"I want to sue [the sheriff's department]," he said.

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mothernature

So if he was found not guilty, would not all the things confiscated have to be returned? How can they condone keeping over half his weed? Just wondering?

vichi12345

i want to conclude that The basic thing nobody asks is why do people take drugs of any sort? Why do we have these accessories to normal living to live? I mean, is there something wrong with society that's making us so pressurized, that we cannot live without guarding ourselves against it?
vichi..
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TheGrandPuba

because life is predictable and boring....