how to pass a urine test - Page 14

zeusalmighty · 05-18-2008, 04:44 PM

Don't listen to the gimmicks, vineger is just going to hurt your kidneys. Bleach can kill you, and they test for it in your urine. They'll probably test for anything you put in there, Visine, Bleach, Vineger, Draino. Don't fuck with it, nothing of that nature is going to enter your fat cells and cleanse the metabolites away, and even if the test is fooled, they're going to check for it.

Here's the idea - Dilute and mask the dilution. Notice that it's not masking the drug, you are masking the fact that your urine isn't a true cross-section of your usage. If your urine is dilute enough, there won't be enough metabolites for the test to pick up. I did some research on all those detox drinks, and found a PDF file online with most of this information. E-mail me if you want the pdf file, I'll forward it to you. I passed two home tests this way - still don't have the results back from the official test, but I'm confident.

Your urine contains creatinin - produced from creatine monohydrate you get from red meat. If that's too low, and they test it, you fail. Your urine also has electrolytes in it (read: salt). If you don't have enough salt, you fail. Also, if your piss is clear, you'll fail (or best case they'll retest you).

So here's what I've done to pass my home tests:

Quit SMOKING as soon as you hear about the test - you don't want to be battling yourself.

If you can't afford it, substitute 1 quart of water + 2 tums for 1 quart of Gatorade. Gatorade tastes better and has electrolytes. The tums will do the same thing, but it's not as tasty.

If you have a lot of notice (like a week), 5-7 days before, exercise and eat like 7 or 8 small meals a day. This will increase your metabolism, which will help your fat cells pump some of the metabolites out, hopefully reducing the amount inside to begin with.

Two days before (48 hours), stop exercising. Eat 2 giant fatty meals a day - DON'T eat breakfast. Wait until lunch and gut load. At dinner, eat JUST before you go to bed. This will SLOW your metabolism down. You want to STOP pumping those metabolites out. Start taking creatine supplements, you can get them at WalMart or Walgreens (like 10 bucks for the bottle). Double the dosage so you're peeing out most of it. Take a B complex vitamin before you go to bed (this will turn your piss yellow).

The day before, HYDRATE. It can take your body up to 24 hours to fully absorb all the liquid you drink, so make sure the day before you have sufficient liquid. It won't hurt to drink more than you need, it'll definitely flush your blood out in prep for tomorrow, but you don't need to be drinking TONS - you don't need to pee clear right now, just make sure you have as much as your body actually needs. Take a B Vitamin in the morning. Continue the creatine supplements. Eat LARGE FATTY meals - the idea is to push stuff INTO your fat cells instead of having them pump stuff out. Make sure you are only eating twice the day before, and eat JUST before you go to bed. The food sitting in your stomach will keep your metabolism low.

The morning of, DON'T EAT. Provide yourself 4 hours before the test. That means, if it's at 9am - wake up at 5. Take 2 B vitamins. Take a double dose of Creatine. Start pounding back gatorade. Drink as much as you can (2 quarts is sufficient) as soon as you get up. Make sure you defecate and urinate as soon as you can. Keep drinking 8-12 ounces every 15 minutes or so until you are urinating clear. Keep drinking 8-12 ounces every 15 minutes now until your urine is turning yellow from the B vitamins. An hour and a half or so before the test, your urine may go clear again, if it does, take one more vitamin. Keep drinking. You want that gatorade to turn into water as fast as you can make it.

When you get to the test, make sure you are still feeling the urgent desire to urinate from pumping yourself full. If you are in a position where the drug test isn't the center of the meeting (like new employment or something), HOLD IT. You'll want to pee bad as hell, but just keep thinking about what happens if you fail - it'll give you strength. The urine in your bladder should be pretty clean.

When you take the test, use the middle stream of your urine, don't give them the beginning or the very end of your stream. Picture the metabolites as sugar at the bottom of a pitcher of cold water. Let's say you poke a hole in bottom of the pitcher - what comes out first? A stream of sugar. But it doesn't all come out, a bunch remains at the bottom. The last bit of water is going to carry the rest of the sugar through the hole. See?

That's it. Don't act scared, those fuckers can smell it on you.

Hopefully this helps.

mjay4twenty · 05-21-2008, 01:14 PM

I'm going to be completely straightfoward. I have a drug test for my job which has to be done no later than May 30th. I was planning on doing it this friday, but now I've almost completely made up my mind to wait. Maybe you guys can persuade my decision.

First off, it's a very relaxed drug testing clinic. I took a test there last summer, 3 days after smoking for the first time, and another one the summer before that, completely clean and innocent. Whenever I want, between 8am and 5pm on weekdays (they're closed on weekends) I can go up there, give them my form, take a piss (no one watches you), and leave.

Now for my history of smoking. Before last Monday, (the 12th) I had been clean since Saturday (the 10th). However, on the 12th I smoked one hit of a very little amount of schwag I found in my desk (it only took one hit to cash it all), who knows how old. The day after that I had one more hit of low THC schwag, to speed up my shroom trip. Before Saturday I was a regular smoker for about a year, on average smoking at least once a day. Sometime I wouldn't smoke for a couple days and other days I'd smoke frequently that day. I know my tolerance had been maxed out cause It was nearly impossible for me to get 'baked.'

Anyways, since tuesday I've been clean, drinking roughly five 20oz glasses of water everyday, but not exercising a single bit. I should probably start doing that.

As for my body, I have an incredibly high metabolism. I'm almost 18, weigh 125 (actually 122 now, Ill explain later) and shit at least twice everyday.

Now, as for what I'm working with. I have a protox orange drink for light weights, and jumpstart pills, both I got from planet k. I've been debating whether or not to get an at home drug test. All that would really do is tell me if I diluded my pee enough, I already know I can do that.

Like I already said, I ate shrooms last tuesday and sweated a bit, but I didnt eat nearly enough to 'trip'. Friday (the 16th) I ate much more at 6pm and tripped balls, sweating nuts all day until about 2 in the morning when I finally came down.

On Saturday (the 17th) I was up all night. There were four of us that went through a little more than an 8 ball, starting at 11pm and spending all night doing lines. My heart would not stop going crazy, my hands were sweaty, my metabolism was wrecking balls, and when I got home around 9:30am I had lost 3 lbs. The last thing I ate that night was dinner around 7 so the entire night I was running off nothing. Although I did drink a beer and lot's of water.

So here's my plan. Take my jumpstart pills the day before my test (29th). The day of test, I'll wake up early, start drinking water and not stop. My pee will be completely diluded. Ill take that detox a couple hrs before 4:30pm, (when I'm planning on going up there.) My pee should be plenty yellow from all the shit in the detox, if not, I'll down some gatorade.

I guess what I'm really wanting to know is do you think I'd pass if I take it this friday? Or should I wait till next friday (the 30th)? It will be almost 3 weeks clean if I wait that long.

Maybe Im just sweating nuts over this thing. I mean I spent 40 bucks on those pills and drink, I should be fine. Then again, without this job my summer is beyond fucked.

Any suggestions help. Especially from anyone whos passed with protox.

needaweed · 05-25-2008, 11:23 AM

I do have an additional question. I have 5 days to test for those fuckers at probation. I think you know your stuff. I am wondering if veggies such as Asparagus and other natural detox foods and drinks help your method. I have 5 days and I am going to follow your method. However, would it hurt to start using natural foods now, and if so, what do you recomend?
A big thanks.....you are da man!
A~

Dalek · 05-27-2008, 11:59 AM

Going to have to take a hair test in a few days. I smoked marijuana approximately 1-2 times weekly for the past year and have not done any drugs for the past 8 days. I will use the Idavisa method and report the results.

I do have a decent amount of hair on my body which I am going to shave, but I am curious. Is there any chance they would take hair from your eyebrows?

Dalek · 05-27-2008, 07:37 PM

Also, is there a chance they will want me to wash my hair at the clinic? I tried putting some conditioner in and letting it air dry - it looks like I have gelled my hair. I'm not sure if they will want to have completely clean hair for the test.

concerned9 · 05-30-2008, 10:16 AM

I just got a call for a second interview with a great company. I know they do hair tests but really want this job and Ive got an in. I've got friends both there and in the industry so I cannot fail a hair test! I'm 6 ft 195 pds brownish hair. Smoked 2 hits about 68 days ago, and again 4 hits 60 days ago (geek joint). Very causaul smoked, in fact not much before that. Had my hair cut twice (last one a week ago) since last use and now its at about 3/4". In theory, have I cut off most of the tainted hair? Or does it matter because they use a method similar to how they cut a tree and look at the history in a short amount of time? Im concerned there might still be tainted hair (especially when the look for the "other" metabites). I plan on getting started with a hair treatment since my test wont be for another week or so. The company the use is pschymedics. any suggestions if im ok and what treatment I should do.

Smoke Break · 05-30-2008, 09:11 PM

So I entered my hair test a week or so ago with about a month and a half clean, short (newly cut from long) hair, and I did the shampoo method you recommended. I got the call yesterday that I passed so... good luck to everyone else on their tests, it worked for me.

trip · 05-30-2008, 11:04 PM

will this work without using the zydot shampoo has neyone tried?

concerned9 · 05-31-2008, 08:14 PM

please read the sides of your shampoos before mixing with bleach. shampoos such as nexus aloe rid contain a number of different acids which when combined with bleach produces chlorine. Chlorine is a bitch on your lungs if you're in a closed area such as a bathroom and could be very damaging. I dont know what is in the suggested VO5, maybe someone can share. P.S. Any responses to my previous post?

chilam6886 · 06-01-2008, 04:30 AM

for the vta,in B-12 thing///you get the same effect by drinking a lot of those energy drinks like Rock Star so you could always claim that....

RobBob · 06-04-2008, 03:39 PM

Dear Idavisa,
What strength of hydrogen peroxide do you recommend for the bleach/peroxide/vo5 treatment?

Do you recommend the 3% drug-store variety (which I have been led to believe elsewhere to be ineffective), or the 40-volume variety (about 12% I think) or higher/industrial grades (such as 35%).

Thank-you so much for sharing your method!!!
Rob

RobBob · 06-05-2008, 06:46 AM

As a previous posting noted, mixing chemicals can be extremely dangerous. They were concerned about mixing chemicals with shampoo, and rightly so.

We also need to understand whether the bleach and the hydrogen peroxide will react with each other, and how so.

Searching the internet, you can find all sorts of seeming contradictions on this issue. Some folks say that bleach and hydrogen peroxide will neutralize each other, forming common table salt, water, and oxygen. If true, would that make the solution worthless for our purposes? Worse yet other folks warn of creating hydrochloric acid, poisonous chlorine gas, other dangerous gases, and/or extreme heat, from this reaction.

Chemistry class was too many years ago for me! Can someone help us to understand the chemical equation and its implications? Thank-you.

Rob

euphoria · 06-05-2008, 01:05 PM

IDAVISA...

My fiance' found your post this morning prior to me going to have a hair follicle test, and I thank you so much for your info! I am at stake for possibly losing my children to my ex (who I now have found out he and his girlfriend is molesting my three year old daughter)It's a sad and horrible thing!! He is just grasping at straws because he is now being investigated! I only smoke weed occasoinally until all this crap started then it became regular but NOT infront of my children or around them!! It has helped my nerves so much!! I never thought I would actually want to kill someone in my whole life with a passion like I do for them!! (Don't worry I control it! I know he's about to get his if you know what I mean! Killing them would be an easy way out! I want them to PAY for what they have done!!!) I'm sure if you have kids you too will understand these feelings!!

What I'm getting at (I know I'm getting to the point, just trying to give you some insite on what's going on!) is that before I found out about your method I ordered the total body cleanse (which I won't add where from, don't want to seem as if I'm trying to sell something! Looks as though you've been harassed enough!) I did that for seven days prior to treating my hair.(it was just in case they wanted to do more than a hair sample) I bought the hair mud. (not to be used until the day OF testing!) I bought the ultra cleanse and aloe rid as well! I also bought apple cider vinegar, deep facial cleanser, & laundry det. ! Then like I said found out about your method and already had most of the ingredients!

I figured hell I might as well try as many as I can because I too was VERY skeptical given the circumstances!

My hair test was this morning at 11:30 am. I started these processes beginning with the det., vinegar, and cleanser method! Then the mud! Lastly your method!

So I am HOPING yours if not one of these will work!! I will keep you guys posted! I can't say though for sure which exact one will work because I had already did the det., vinegar, cleanser first, had the hair mud in and then my fiance' printed your method out so I did that IMMEDIATLY follwing suit!!! To the "T"! Anyway thanks for your info I'm sure everyone just as I am are greatly appreciative! I will be able to know the soonest monday june 10th!

P.S. I have (fusion) extension in so the only took hair from my "crown" and was only about five inches long! I'm a female and I'm 20 years old!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ldavisa

FYI:

I needed to pass a hair test for pre-employment; I was using drugs constantly.

The detox shampoo (Zydot shampoo offered by Testclear) was used; however I included several other methods in addition to the shampoo and in the end I came up with negative results in all panels which was conducted by psymedics corp.

This is what I did to pass the hair test (and I had been using Amphetamines, Xanax, and Opiates regularly). My methods to prepare for the test were as follows:

1) I got my entire hair colored (not bleached) but just a lighter shade of light brown (barely noticible) by a hair salon. I made sure to have them cut my hair so that it was only just about 1 inch or so-my hair was already somewhat short so it wouldn't of looked suspicious having it cut below the 1.5 inch length requirement (they need 1.5 inches of hair so that they can go back and trace up to 90 days prior).

IMPORTANT: Psymedics can and will try to collect hair samples from under your armpits, chesthair, armhair, leghair, and in some cases even pubic hair (all of which can detect much longer than the 90 days per 1.5 inches in length as you head hair does-I was told by the lady conducting the test that if I had even 3/4 inch of hair in my armpits, legs, arms, or elsewhere it could detect as far back as 120+ days). So be sure to shave armpits, chest, legs, etc. I bought an electric hair clipper and shaved down to approx. 1/8 inch all over my body in which hair can grow as to not look suspicious. It merely appeared as if I was a very groomed person who was self-consious of having a overly hairy body, etc. Since I didn't shave down completely bare it was effective as to not look like I was trying to purposely rig the hair test. As a result they had no other option but to take hair from my head which was approx. 1 inch long (this will give them only 60 days of history vs. the required 90 days) This wasn't an issue when tested-they just took my head hair due to lack of body hair elsewhere.

2) I then used a method that included mixing clorox bleach; hydrogen peroxide and VO5 Shampoo (WITH ALOE).

Ingredients that I used to Pass a Hair Drug Test

VO5 shampoo W/ ALOE
VO5 shampoo W/ ALOE is the recommended shampoo for beginning the hair cleansing process. You will need 1.5 ounces of VO5 shampoo.

Clorox bleach
The bleach will help to strip drug and drug metabolites from your hair. You will need 1 teaspoon of Clorox bleach.

Hydrogen peroxide
The hydrogen peroxide will help to strip drug and drug metabolites from your hair. You will need 1 teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide.

I mixed all together (1 tsp of Clorox bleach; 1 tsp of Hydrogen peroxide and 1.5 ounces of VO5 shampoo W/ ALOE) and used as a shampoo.

First lather hair thoroughly with mixture-let sit in hair for 5 minutes. Then rinse thoroughly. Repeat these steps 2 more times. When done correctly you will have had this mixture in your hair for an overal total of 15 minutes. Don't worry, this will not be enough time for your hair to be bleached. It will not change the color of your hair-so don't cut corners and have it sit in your hair for anytime less than 5 min intervals. You may feel a tingling sensation but stick to exactly 5 mins per washing.

What this will do when completed correctly is that it will chemically alter your hair (will destroy fibers in the hair that are necessary to detect toxins and destroy all drug metabolites in your hair folicles) in a way that will make it impossible to get a reading when the actual testing is conducted.

3) Purchased Zydot Shampoo (entire package).
Follow the directions exactly.

4) The last step (and in my opinion the most important step) I did was after I washed with the Zydot shampoo system exactly as directed, I lathered my hair with conditioner (any brand will do) and DID NOT rinse it out. I left it in to air dry.

Hair conditioner
The conditioner will be applied and left on your hair after you've cleaned it with the shampoo, bleach and peroxide; and after you shampoo with Zydot Shampoo package. The conditioner will contaminate the solution when the laboratory is processing your sample, and will cause your test to be negative.

What this does is it will contaminate the testing of your hair (with utmost certainty). The conditioner will currupt the testing resulting in a negative in all panels that are tested.

Between the coloring of my hair, cutting my hair to 1 inch (not allowing them to collect the required 1.5 inches needed to go back 90 days), using the bleach/hydrogen peroxide/VO5 Shampoo w/ALOE method, also using the Zydot hair shampoo system offered by testclear, and finally a thorough lathering of conditioner that was NOT rinsed off and let to air dry, I came back with neagative results in all panels. And I am a heavy user of all drugs mentioned above.

This is a full proof way to beat a hair test for pre-employment.

FYI:

If you have longer hair...don't worry about cutting it short. Just double up on the clorox bleach/hydrogen peroxide/VO5 Shampoo with ALOE mixture so you have enough to completely saturate your hair entirely for the three 5 minute intervals.

And be SURE to completely condition your hair and not rinse it out (let air dry). That is the last and FINAL thing you need to do.

In my opinion these 2 steps are the MOST important of the methods I used. The mixture will destroy the fibers inside the hair folicle most certainly, but the conditioner will curropt the test all together.

You will be fine...no way you will test positive. I've had several friends of mine that had longer hair and didn't cut it short and it worked for them flawlessly.

Good luck and don't worry...you'll be just fine. This is a proven way to beat a hair test as I have done it twice and 5 of my friends have done it and they all passed.

If you have additional questions please reply and I will answer them as soon as I am notified.

RobBob · 06-05-2008, 03:28 PM

Idavisa,
I had some time today to do some further research. First, I am finding more risks and dangers of using bleach and hydrogen peroxide. They are very dangerous to mess around with. That said, I have found both a reason to be doubtful, and a reason to be hopeful, regarding the effectiveness of your method:

REASON TO BE DOUBTFUL:

According to Wikipedia's article for hydrogen peroxide:

NaOCl + H2O2 → O2 + NaCl + H2O

In other words, household bleach (sodium hypochlorite or NaOCl) plus hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) react to form oxygen bubbles (which quickly escape into the environment) and salt water.

There was a scientific paper published years ago which analyzed the effects of various treatments on the toxins found in hair. It looked at alkaline wave solutions, hair bleaching, dandruff shampoo, artificial sweat, etc., etc., and how they effected drug levels in the hair. As a proxy for artificial sweat, they used salt water! They found that it had very little effect on reducing the drug concentrations in hair - even after 20 hours! (Welch, M.J., Sniegoski, L.T., Allgood, Ch., and Habram, M., Hair Analysis For Drugs of Abuse: Evaluation of Analytical Methods, Environmental Issues, and Development of Reference Materials, J. Anal. Toxicology, 17, 389, 1993).

If the bleach and peroxide react to form salt water, and if salt water has been shown to have little effect, then I am doubtful.

REASON TO BE HOPEFUL:

The same research cited above (Welch, et al), found that the greatest decrease in cocaine concentration was observed with 30% hydrogen peroxide and an alkaline wave solution. This reduced the drug concentration found in the hair by 80% to 95%. Bleach is an alkaline (base/basic) solution, so PERHAPS it would act on the hair in a manner similar to the alkaline wave solution (???) -- assuming that it isnt first converted into saltwater??? And would the concentrated hydrogen peroxide poison you or burn you? I am working on getting a complete copy of the Welch paper. It may take weeks to get it. If successful, I will provide more details then.

There is a lot of uncertainty surrounding all of this. After looking at a half-dozen research papers, you often end up with more questions than you started with. Some treatments (such as propylene glycol) are rumored to eliminate THC and its metabolites, but not necessarily other drugs. Organic solvents and certain diluted acids are used by some testing labs to extract drugs/metabolites from hair overnight, but at temperatures that would burn you within seconds if the hair was still attached to your head. Maybe it would also work at tolerable temperatures -- or maybe it wouldnt. Who knows? Would the diluted acid burn your skin? Not sure. Would the chemicals poison you? Who knows? But the greatness of the internet is that we can learn from each other.

Ideally, we would someday have two sets of hair tests done... the same people before and after the Idavisa method... to test its effectiveness.

Rob

made in china · 06-05-2008, 05:10 PM

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thejenius77 · 06-05-2008, 07:09 PM

So I was offered a job at a horse track and I was told that they do hair tests.

I am a VERY casual smoker. I have smoked 6 times tops in the last 3 months. And each time, with the exception of once, I only took 2-3 hits. The last time which was going on 2 weeks ago, I shared a joint with 2 other people.

I think I will be having my test next week sometime.

I am a 31 yr old female. I am 160 lbs, brown hair on bottom, bleached and redyed light blonde on top. My roots are about 1/2 inch long with natural color. My metabolism is fairly fast. I just passed a random saliva test at my current job last week and I know I would pass a piss test.

My hair is pretty damaged from having it bleached twice and dyed. And I blowdry and straighten every day.

Any thoughts, suggestions would be wonderful. Thank you in advance

RobBob · 06-05-2008, 08:04 PM

Hi. I am not an expert by any means (yet). But for what it's worth, I would bleach and redye. Then I would bleach and redye again (on a different day?). Some people might recommend a third cycle of bleach/redye if you were a heavy user. Each cycle MAY get rid of 60% or more of the drugs and metabolites that existed immediately prior to that cycle (???). Your goal is to get below the detection threshold. I assume that you have metabolites in your hairs roots. Make sure that the redye formula has both hydrogen peroxide and ammonia. It goes without saying, you also want as much clean-time as possible prior to your test, so I wouldn't smoke any more until you get the test results back. You want your blood to be nice and clean (so that new hair grows clean) and your sweat and oils to be clean (so that it doesn't get incorporated into your hair in your pores or externally). I wouldn't even hang around people who are using drugs until you get your results back, and are sure you wont need a retest.

Also, some studies would imply that the previously bleached portions of your hair may be more susceptable than usual to absorbing external contamination, such as the smoke you have encountered since your bleachings.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I would also buy a new hairbrush, wash all of your towels, and wash your pillow cases, etc. You want EVERYTHING that touches your hair to be clean once you start the treatments.

External contamination can be a real problem, even though the labs claim that they wash-off all external contaminnation. I think I saw a study where drug-free hair absorbed drug metabolites from contaminated sweat. The drugs became incorporated into the hair to such an extent that some of it remained in the hair even after it was supposedly decontaminated. (You could argue that external contamination from drug smoke is chemically different from the metabolites produced by your liver when the drug is in your system, and that therefore the lab could differentiate external contamination from your own usage, but I wouldn't take a chance.)

Maybe this is overkill, but if you can handle it and you understand the risks of working with these chemicals, I would go for two cycles of bleach and redye.

There are other potential methods too (such as Idavisa's) which I am still researching and trying to understand.

Rob

thejenius77 · 06-05-2008, 08:46 PM

I am afraid if I bleach it again that my hair will fall out! And that if it does make it through the bleaching, when I go to redye it, it will turn orange or some awful color.

SourDeez · 06-07-2008, 09:42 PM

U sed when ur completely clean, if u smoke a fat blunt, it takes 24-48 hours for u to be clean. Is this without doing any of ur methods, or is this with trying to use ur method. Wood this mean that in 48 hours I can smoke another fat blunt and Ide be safe in 2 days? Also, with this method, shood I be drinking alot of water and gatorade for several days be4 I begin ur strategy on the day be4. Also, if ur smoking every day, 1 L a day, how many days in advance wood I need to start drinking to pass, and wood ur method work just as soon even with heavy users. 1 more question, im 135 Lbs and 6 foot and am very active, being that Im lighter will I be clean sooner than heavy people. I know its alot, but can u plz answer all of my questions becuz I dnt wnt to take any risks for my prohbation so I really need to no the answers.

give · 06-08-2008, 08:35 AM

capt.murphy has some good advise,but i just had to take a drug test for a new job,i went in tio give some paper work and the lady said ok,lets take a drug test,i almost shit,said i had to pick up my little one,can i do it tomorrow?
they said yes
so i could not do most of the things people do,so i went to the health food store and bought some shit called the extra stuff,i also drank 2 glasses of water every 2 hours that night,probley about 6 al to gether,in the am i drank that shit i bought,was tuff keeping it down to,but i did,i mean 30 bucks,lol,so i went to the place,pissed in toilet first,then in cup then toilet,dident want any res in it,lol,anyway it worked,and let me tell you they do look for color,seen it listed on the sheet,but it worked for me,and i like to smoke

05-18-2008, 04:44 PM	#261 (permalink)
zeusalmighty YaHookan Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Surefire Don't listen to the gimmicks, vineger is just going to hurt your kidneys. Bleach can kill you, and they test for it in your urine. They'll probably test for anything you put in there, Visine, Bleach, Vineger, Draino. Don't fuck with it, nothing of that nature is going to enter your fat cells and cleanse the metabolites away, and even if the test is fooled, they're going to check for it. Here's the idea - Dilute and mask the dilution. Notice that it's not masking the drug, you are masking the fact that your urine isn't a true cross-section of your usage. If your urine is dilute enough, there won't be enough metabolites for the test to pick up. I did some research on all those detox drinks, and found a PDF file online with most of this information. E-mail me if you want the pdf file, I'll forward it to you. I passed two home tests this way - still don't have the results back from the official test, but I'm confident. Your urine contains creatinin - produced from creatine monohydrate you get from red meat. If that's too low, and they test it, you fail. Your urine also has electrolytes in it (read: salt). If you don't have enough salt, you fail. Also, if your piss is clear, you'll fail (or best case they'll retest you). So here's what I've done to pass my home tests: Quit SMOKING as soon as you hear about the test - you don't want to be battling yourself. If you can't afford it, substitute 1 quart of water + 2 tums for 1 quart of Gatorade. Gatorade tastes better and has electrolytes. The tums will do the same thing, but it's not as tasty. If you have a lot of notice (like a week), 5-7 days before, exercise and eat like 7 or 8 small meals a day. This will increase your metabolism, which will help your fat cells pump some of the metabolites out, hopefully reducing the amount inside to begin with. Two days before (48 hours), stop exercising. Eat 2 giant fatty meals a day - DON'T eat breakfast. Wait until lunch and gut load. At dinner, eat JUST before you go to bed. This will SLOW your metabolism down. You want to STOP pumping those metabolites out. Start taking creatine supplements, you can get them at WalMart or Walgreens (like 10 bucks for the bottle). Double the dosage so you're peeing out most of it. Take a B complex vitamin before you go to bed (this will turn your piss yellow). The day before, HYDRATE. It can take your body up to 24 hours to fully absorb all the liquid you drink, so make sure the day before you have sufficient liquid. It won't hurt to drink more than you need, it'll definitely flush your blood out in prep for tomorrow, but you don't need to be drinking TONS - you don't need to pee clear right now, just make sure you have as much as your body actually needs. Take a B Vitamin in the morning. Continue the creatine supplements. Eat LARGE FATTY meals - the idea is to push stuff INTO your fat cells instead of having them pump stuff out. Make sure you are only eating twice the day before, and eat JUST before you go to bed. The food sitting in your stomach will keep your metabolism low. The morning of, DON'T EAT. Provide yourself 4 hours before the test. That means, if it's at 9am - wake up at 5. Take 2 B vitamins. Take a double dose of Creatine. Start pounding back gatorade. Drink as much as you can (2 quarts is sufficient) as soon as you get up. Make sure you defecate and urinate as soon as you can. Keep drinking 8-12 ounces every 15 minutes or so until you are urinating clear. Keep drinking 8-12 ounces every 15 minutes now until your urine is turning yellow from the B vitamins. An hour and a half or so before the test, your urine may go clear again, if it does, take one more vitamin. Keep drinking. You want that gatorade to turn into water as fast as you can make it. When you get to the test, make sure you are still feeling the urgent desire to urinate from pumping yourself full. If you are in a position where the drug test isn't the center of the meeting (like new employment or something), HOLD IT. You'll want to pee bad as hell, but just keep thinking about what happens if you fail - it'll give you strength. The urine in your bladder should be pretty clean. When you take the test, use the middle stream of your urine, don't give them the beginning or the very end of your stream. Picture the metabolites as sugar at the bottom of a pitcher of cold water. Let's say you poke a hole in bottom of the pitcher - what comes out first? A stream of sugar. But it doesn't all come out, a bunch remains at the bottom. The last bit of water is going to carry the rest of the sugar through the hole. See? That's it. Don't act scared, those fuckers can smell it on you. Hopefully this helps.

05-25-2008, 11:23 AM	#263 (permalink)
needaweed Not a quitter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Capt. Murphy, you sound like you know your stuff! I do have an additional question. I have 5 days to test for those fuckers at probation. I think you know your stuff. I am wondering if veggies such as Asparagus and other natural detox foods and drinks help your method. I have 5 days and I am going to follow your method. However, would it hurt to start using natural foods now, and if so, what do you recomend? A big thanks.....you are da man! A~

05-30-2008, 10:16 AM	#266 (permalink)
concerned9 YaHookan Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hair test 2 weeks got to pass! I just got a call for a second interview with a great company. I know they do hair tests but really want this job and Ive got an in. I've got friends both there and in the industry so I cannot fail a hair test! I'm 6 ft 195 pds brownish hair. Smoked 2 hits about 68 days ago, and again 4 hits 60 days ago (geek joint). Very causaul smoked, in fact not much before that. Had my hair cut twice (last one a week ago) since last use and now its at about 3/4". In theory, have I cut off most of the tainted hair? Or does it matter because they use a method similar to how they cut a tree and look at the history in a short amount of time? Im concerned there might still be tainted hair (especially when the look for the "other" metabites). I plan on getting started with a hair treatment since my test wont be for another week or so. The company the use is pschymedics. any suggestions if im ok and what treatment I should do.

05-30-2008, 09:11 PM	#267 (permalink)
Smoke Break -Custom User Title- Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 599 Thanks: 90 Thanked 31 Times in 12 Posts	So I entered my hair test a week or so ago with about a month and a half clean, short (newly cut from long) hair, and I did the shampoo method you recommended. I got the call yesterday that I passed so... good luck to everyone else on their tests, it worked for me. __________________ Think for yourself, question authority.

05-31-2008, 08:14 PM	#269 (permalink)
concerned9 YaHookan Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	careful when mixing chemicals please read the sides of your shampoos before mixing with bleach. shampoos such as nexus aloe rid contain a number of different acids which when combined with bleach produces chlorine. Chlorine is a bitch on your lungs if you're in a closed area such as a bathroom and could be very damaging. I dont know what is in the suggested VO5, maybe someone can share. P.S. Any responses to my previous post?

05-21-2008, 01:14 PM	#262 (permalink)
mjay4twenty YaHookan Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm going to be completely straightfoward. I have a drug test for my job which has to be done no later than May 30th. I was planning on doing it this friday, but now I've almost completely made up my mind to wait. Maybe you guys can persuade my decision. First off, it's a very relaxed drug testing clinic. I took a test there last summer, 3 days after smoking for the first time, and another one the summer before that, completely clean and innocent. Whenever I want, between 8am and 5pm on weekdays (they're closed on weekends) I can go up there, give them my form, take a piss (no one watches you), and leave. Now for my history of smoking. Before last Monday, (the 12th) I had been clean since Saturday (the 10th). However, on the 12th I smoked one hit of a very little amount of schwag I found in my desk (it only took one hit to cash it all), who knows how old. The day after that I had one more hit of low THC schwag, to speed up my shroom trip. Before Saturday I was a regular smoker for about a year, on average smoking at least once a day. Sometime I wouldn't smoke for a couple days and other days I'd smoke frequently that day. I know my tolerance had been maxed out cause It was nearly impossible for me to get 'baked.' Anyways, since tuesday I've been clean, drinking roughly five 20oz glasses of water everyday, but not exercising a single bit. I should probably start doing that. As for my body, I have an incredibly high metabolism. I'm almost 18, weigh 125 (actually 122 now, Ill explain later) and shit at least twice everyday. Now, as for what I'm working with. I have a protox orange drink for light weights, and jumpstart pills, both I got from planet k. I've been debating whether or not to get an at home drug test. All that would really do is tell me if I diluded my pee enough, I already know I can do that. Like I already said, I ate shrooms last tuesday and sweated a bit, but I didnt eat nearly enough to 'trip'. Friday (the 16th) I ate much more at 6pm and tripped balls, sweating nuts all day until about 2 in the morning when I finally came down. On Saturday (the 17th) I was up all night. There were four of us that went through a little more than an 8 ball, starting at 11pm and spending all night doing lines. My heart would not stop going crazy, my hands were sweaty, my metabolism was wrecking balls, and when I got home around 9:30am I had lost 3 lbs. The last thing I ate that night was dinner around 7 so the entire night I was running off nothing. Although I did drink a beer and lot's of water. So here's my plan. Take my jumpstart pills the day before my test (29th). The day of test, I'll wake up early, start drinking water and not stop. My pee will be completely diluded. Ill take that detox a couple hrs before 4:30pm, (when I'm planning on going up there.) My pee should be plenty yellow from all the shit in the detox, if not, I'll down some gatorade. I guess what I'm really wanting to know is do you think I'd pass if I take it this friday? Or should I wait till next friday (the 30th)? It will be almost 3 weeks clean if I wait that long. Maybe Im just sweating nuts over this thing. I mean I spent 40 bucks on those pills and drink, I should be fine. Then again, without this job my summer is beyond fucked. Any suggestions help. Especially from anyone whos passed with protox.

05-27-2008, 11:59 AM	#264 (permalink)
Dalek YaHookan Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Going to have to take a hair test in a few days. I smoked marijuana approximately 1-2 times weekly for the past year and have not done any drugs for the past 8 days. I will use the Idavisa method and report the results. I do have a decent amount of hair on my body which I am going to shave, but I am curious. Is there any chance they would take hair from your eyebrows?

05-27-2008, 07:37 PM	#265 (permalink)
Dalek YaHookan Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Also, is there a chance they will want me to wash my hair at the clinic? I tried putting some conditioner in and letting it air dry - it looks like I have gelled my hair. I'm not sure if they will want to have completely clean hair for the test.

05-30-2008, 11:04 PM	#268 (permalink)
trip YaHookan Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	will this work without using the zydot shampoo has neyone tried?

06-01-2008, 04:30 AM	#270 (permalink)
chilam6886 YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	for the vta,in B-12 thing///you get the same effect by drinking a lot of those energy drinks like Rock Star so you could always claim that....

06-04-2008, 03:39 PM	#271 (permalink)
RobBob YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Question about the hydrogen peroxide Dear Idavisa, What strength of hydrogen peroxide do you recommend for the bleach/peroxide/vo5 treatment? Do you recommend the 3% drug-store variety (which I have been led to believe elsewhere to be ineffective), or the 40-volume variety (about 12% I think) or higher/industrial grades (such as 35%). Thank-you so much for sharing your method!!! Rob

06-05-2008, 06:46 AM	#272 (permalink)
RobBob YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Any chemistry experts out there? As a previous posting noted, mixing chemicals can be extremely dangerous. They were concerned about mixing chemicals with shampoo, and rightly so. We also need to understand whether the bleach and the hydrogen peroxide will react with each other, and how so. Searching the internet, you can find all sorts of seeming contradictions on this issue. Some folks say that bleach and hydrogen peroxide will neutralize each other, forming common table salt, water, and oxygen. If true, would that make the solution worthless for our purposes? Worse yet other folks warn of creating hydrochloric acid, poisonous chlorine gas, other dangerous gases, and/or extreme heat, from this reaction. Chemistry class was too many years ago for me! Can someone help us to understand the chemical equation and its implications? Thank-you. Rob

06-05-2008, 03:28 PM	#274 (permalink)
RobBob YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Peroxide / Bleach / Aloe Shampoo method Idavisa, I had some time today to do some further research. First, I am finding more risks and dangers of using bleach and hydrogen peroxide. They are very dangerous to mess around with. That said, I have found both a reason to be doubtful, and a reason to be hopeful, regarding the effectiveness of your method: REASON TO BE DOUBTFUL: According to Wikipedia's article for hydrogen peroxide: NaOCl + H2O2 → O2 + NaCl + H2O In other words, household bleach (sodium hypochlorite or NaOCl) plus hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) react to form oxygen bubbles (which quickly escape into the environment) and salt water. There was a scientific paper published years ago which analyzed the effects of various treatments on the toxins found in hair. It looked at alkaline wave solutions, hair bleaching, dandruff shampoo, artificial sweat, etc., etc., and how they effected drug levels in the hair. As a proxy for artificial sweat, they used salt water! They found that it had very little effect on reducing the drug concentrations in hair - even after 20 hours! (Welch, M.J., Sniegoski, L.T., Allgood, Ch., and Habram, M., Hair Analysis For Drugs of Abuse: Evaluation of Analytical Methods, Environmental Issues, and Development of Reference Materials, J. Anal. Toxicology, 17, 389, 1993). If the bleach and peroxide react to form salt water, and if salt water has been shown to have little effect, then I am doubtful. REASON TO BE HOPEFUL: The same research cited above (Welch, et al), found that the greatest decrease in cocaine concentration was observed with 30% hydrogen peroxide and an alkaline wave solution. This reduced the drug concentration found in the hair by 80% to 95%. Bleach is an alkaline (base/basic) solution, so PERHAPS it would act on the hair in a manner similar to the alkaline wave solution (???) -- assuming that it isnt first converted into saltwater??? And would the concentrated hydrogen peroxide poison you or burn you? I am working on getting a complete copy of the Welch paper. It may take weeks to get it. If successful, I will provide more details then. There is a lot of uncertainty surrounding all of this. After looking at a half-dozen research papers, you often end up with more questions than you started with. Some treatments (such as propylene glycol) are rumored to eliminate THC and its metabolites, but not necessarily other drugs. Organic solvents and certain diluted acids are used by some testing labs to extract drugs/metabolites from hair overnight, but at temperatures that would burn you within seconds if the hair was still attached to your head. Maybe it would also work at tolerable temperatures -- or maybe it wouldnt. Who knows? Would the diluted acid burn your skin? Not sure. Would the chemicals poison you? Who knows? But the greatness of the internet is that we can learn from each other. Ideally, we would someday have two sets of hair tests done... the same people before and after the Idavisa method... to test its effectiveness. Rob

06-05-2008, 05:10 PM	#275 (permalink)
made in china smell my finger Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	this threads like the home shopping network

06-05-2008, 07:09 PM	#276 (permalink)
thejenius77 YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help........... So I was offered a job at a horse track and I was told that they do hair tests. I am a VERY casual smoker. I have smoked 6 times tops in the last 3 months. And each time, with the exception of once, I only took 2-3 hits. The last time which was going on 2 weeks ago, I shared a joint with 2 other people. I think I will be having my test next week sometime. I am a 31 yr old female. I am 160 lbs, brown hair on bottom, bleached and redyed light blonde on top. My roots are about 1/2 inch long with natural color. My metabolism is fairly fast. I just passed a random saliva test at my current job last week and I know I would pass a piss test. My hair is pretty damaged from having it bleached twice and dyed. And I blowdry and straighten every day. Any thoughts, suggestions would be wonderful. Thank you in advance

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06-05-2008, 08:04 PM	#277 (permalink)
RobBob YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	To Thejenius77 Hi. I am not an expert by any means (yet). But for what it's worth, I would bleach and redye. Then I would bleach and redye again (on a different day?). Some people might recommend a third cycle of bleach/redye if you were a heavy user. Each cycle MAY get rid of 60% or more of the drugs and metabolites that existed immediately prior to that cycle (???). Your goal is to get below the detection threshold. I assume that you have metabolites in your hairs roots. Make sure that the redye formula has both hydrogen peroxide and ammonia. It goes without saying, you also want as much clean-time as possible prior to your test, so I wouldn't smoke any more until you get the test results back. You want your blood to be nice and clean (so that new hair grows clean) and your sweat and oils to be clean (so that it doesn't get incorporated into your hair in your pores or externally). I wouldn't even hang around people who are using drugs until you get your results back, and are sure you wont need a retest. Also, some studies would imply that the previously bleached portions of your hair may be more susceptable than usual to absorbing external contamination, such as the smoke you have encountered since your bleachings. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I would also buy a new hairbrush, wash all of your towels, and wash your pillow cases, etc. You want EVERYTHING that touches your hair to be clean once you start the treatments. External contamination can be a real problem, even though the labs claim that they wash-off all external contaminnation. I think I saw a study where drug-free hair absorbed drug metabolites from contaminated sweat. The drugs became incorporated into the hair to such an extent that some of it remained in the hair even after it was supposedly decontaminated. (You could argue that external contamination from drug smoke is chemically different from the metabolites produced by your liver when the drug is in your system, and that therefore the lab could differentiate external contamination from your own usage, but I wouldn't take a chance.) Maybe this is overkill, but if you can handle it and you understand the risks of working with these chemicals, I would go for two cycles of bleach and redye. There are other potential methods too (such as Idavisa's) which I am still researching and trying to understand. Rob

06-05-2008, 08:46 PM	#278 (permalink)
thejenius77 YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am afraid if I bleach it again that my hair will fall out! And that if it does make it through the bleaching, when I go to redye it, it will turn orange or some awful color.

06-07-2008, 09:42 PM	#279 (permalink)
SourDeez We smokin sour! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jerzey Posts: 106 Thanks: 18 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	U sed when ur completely clean, if u smoke a fat blunt, it takes 24-48 hours for u to be clean. Is this without doing any of ur methods, or is this with trying to use ur method. Wood this mean that in 48 hours I can smoke another fat blunt and Ide be safe in 2 days? Also, with this method, shood I be drinking alot of water and gatorade for several days be4 I begin ur strategy on the day be4. Also, if ur smoking every day, 1 L a day, how many days in advance wood I need to start drinking to pass, and wood ur method work just as soon even with heavy users. 1 more question, im 135 Lbs and 6 foot and am very active, being that Im lighter will I be clean sooner than heavy people. I know its alot, but can u plz answer all of my questions becuz I dnt wnt to take any risks for my prohbation so I really need to no the answers.

06-08-2008, 08:35 AM	#280 (permalink)
give smoking fiend Join Date: May 2008 Location: pa Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	capt.murphy has some good advise,but i just had to take a drug test for a new job,i went in tio give some paper work and the lady said ok,lets take a drug test,i almost shit,said i had to pick up my little one,can i do it tomorrow? they said yes so i could not do most of the things people do,so i went to the health food store and bought some shit called the extra stuff,i also drank 2 glasses of water every 2 hours that night,probley about 6 al to gether,in the am i drank that shit i bought,was tuff keeping it down to,but i did,i mean 30 bucks,lol,so i went to the place,pissed in toilet first,then in cup then toilet,dident want any res in it,lol,anyway it worked,and let me tell you they do look for color,seen it listed on the sheet,but it worked for me,and i like to smoke

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