First grow, Help

toke>smoke · 02-10-2007, 09:43 PM

I'v had these two growing for about 2 weeks. I'm using CFL's if that information is needed.

Ok... The more developed one is starting to curl, i was told that this may be due to over watering. Not too sure myself though. If this is due to over-watering what are some tips to know when to water and when not to water.
As of now i water everytime i check on them, which is 1-2 times a day.

Also... The less developed one has been doing very good, its much taller then the other and the leaves are already bigger than the others first set of leaves.
Today during my daily check-up I noticed that a small part of one of the leaves has been whats looks like biten off. Can anybody tell me what this is and what to do to stop it.
(If its mites wouldnt the other have bite marks also??)

shroomy420 · 02-10-2007, 09:48 PM

aaaaaaaaaaaaah dude get mite control those little bastards ate my first beautiful plant has ur plant been outside????? those things are everywhere i left my first plant out for ONE week cuz i was on vocation and it needed to be watered and when i got back it was HUGE bug EATEN ALIVE AAAAAAH SAVE THE PLANT MAN PLZ

toke>smoke · 02-10-2007, 09:52 PM

Nah, these babies have been inside their entire life, so far.
What is a good form of Mite control though, and how much am i looking to spend. I'll Probably buy some to be safe.

shroomy420 · 02-10-2007, 09:56 PM

wow dude to be honest i really dont know i hope it isnt mites as they are horrible and i hate them i cant think of anyting other than that cuz there really really small i found a caterpiller on mine once he was nice but mites are bad look for eggs n shit under the leaves or bugs anything un plant like post another pic?

shroomy420 · 02-10-2007, 10:05 PM

o yea dude stop watering soo much how close are your lights??? u need very very close and as for water nutrisioucse and not too much when the soil seems dry to you give it a lil love

toke>smoke · 02-10-2007, 10:11 PM

My lights are all about 4-5 inches away as of now.
I have only been using bottled water to water them.
Any changes that need to be made concerning water or lighting??

shroomy420 · 02-10-2007, 10:18 PM

hmm can i see your entire set up??? u can have ur lights 1-2 inches from the plant and the bottled water is fine any nutrients u can find will be fine if ur bored u can piss in the water for sum yum yums it will smell tho keeps the plant warm as well always good
give me the details

toke>smoke · 02-10-2007, 10:22 PM

I'll try and get pics of the entire set up.
Probably put em up tomrrow.

**Pharm Girl** · 02-11-2007, 02:38 AM

Just a few things........bear with me~
You must arm yourself with the Nutrient Deficiency Chart, when Dan threw that up, I was like in weed heaven.
And what is your soil recipe? I need to know wether poor in nitrogen.......
Have you got a fan on 'em?
Is there ventilation?
Plant a garlic bulb in each plant.........again Dan had mentioned that and sure enough I was growing garlic too......
Stickies are good too.......but I do believe that first you must identify which varmit you have. Only water when the pots are light...........I find that keeping 'em slighty on the dry side that I have greater chances of getting females.
And what are you using to fertilize?
Do you let your water sit 24 hours before use to evaporate the non-essentials that some from city water. And what is the ppm and ph of your water?
Sorry about all the q's, but they will be answered before the Sun sets in Texas.

toke>smoke · 02-11-2007, 09:54 AM

WOW,

Thanks for taking your time evaluating my problem, im a first time grower and all this new to me. bare with me please.

1st off, what is the Nutrient Deficiency Chart??
Yes, theres ventilation , I have a fan going most of them time.
Im a confused about this garlic thing, can you explain alil bit more.
Stickies??
I am using no ferts right now, due to being new, I thought I woulnt use any until I got the hang of it and they were a lil bigger.
I use bottled water to wayer them, does this still need to be sitting for 24 hours before i can use it?
I might have away to check the ph of my water, ill look after I have further help

thanks so much,

toke>smoke · 02-11-2007, 09:57 AM

Oh and BTW, Im almost certain I have mites on both plants,
I put the plants in my garage where its cold, because i read that mites cant live in too cold of weather.
I only put the plants in there for a couple hours, it didnt seam to hurt it anymore than they already were.

Hopefully I can get out today and buy some ladybugs, I did some research and they are pretty cheap and effective.

shroomy420 · 02-11-2007, 10:13 AM

mm its better to try and save the plants then kill the bugs cuz it hurts the plants too go to the nearest store where they have gardening supplies and get mite dust or something

Blippy The Slug · 02-12-2007, 10:07 AM

For mites, try Sunlight (brand) dishwashing liquid, diluted 1 drop to 3 oz water. 12 oz = 4 drops, 16 oz = 5 drops.

Mist the plant with this, make sure you get under the leaves.

Let dry 20 minutes.

Mist/rinse with clean water.

Do this 2 ot 4 times daily till the mites go away, then every other day for a week, then once a week.

-----

That one leaf looks more gnawed than anything to me, like from a caterpiller or wandering herbivorous bug.

Can you actually see the bugs? If they look like tiny red slivers, or tiny gnats, those are (semi) ok. If you have to use a magnifier, and find them under/inside your leaves, and see little tiny webs under your leaves... that's more like mites. Tiny green caterpillers (inchworms & smaller) are also sometimes hard to spot.

toke>smoke · 02-12-2007, 06:42 PM

OK, great
I just went out and bought a spray that kills a number of different mites/bugs.

I'll try the soap before I use the spray, It sounds a lot safer for the plant.

Thanks Blip.

**Pharm Girl** · 02-12-2007, 06:52 PM

http://www.yahooka.com/forum/showthr...ent+deficiency

One Chart that is a definite keeper~

**Pharm Girl** · 02-12-2007, 07:19 PM

Don't forget the recipe that uses rubbing alcohol diluted slightly.
I tried it and it worked......but u must repeat every 3 days.
Usually twice does the trick......but u don't do this under the HPS........

toke>smoke · 02-21-2007, 09:53 PM

HEY,
Just wanted to post an update on the babies.
I'v got the mites under control after a few days battling them with different remedys.

The first set of leaves were completely yellowed and dried out in the first baby, I trimmed those off and and the other set which was about 80% yellowed and it has really shot up since then.

I was wondering if the experts on yahooka would be able to tell if these are of any perticular strian. They are from bagseed, But I saved up the seeds from many different smokes with buddies that get pretty good bud. One being NL, does the second baby show characteristics of NL at all. It sprouted about 5 days later than babie 1 and seems to grow a lot quicker. Isnt this a characteristc of NL (Well adapted to indoor growing) also I noticed the leaves are thinner and longer like NL right??

Thanks,

P.S. Baby 1 is refering to the one that only has 1 pic of the single plant in it.
Baby 2 is the one with two single pics of the it.

rastaman2112 · 02-21-2007, 10:21 PM

"Plant a garlic bulb in each plant.........again Dan had mentioned that and sure enough I was growing garlic too......" wtf garlic? y? i dont get it?

Blippy The Slug · 02-21-2007, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toke>smoke

... would be able to tell if these are of any perticular strian.

Looks like Wunderblüten to me...

*falls off chair*

toke>smoke · 02-22-2007, 02:17 PM

Wunderblüten??
lol, Is this an actual strain, or am I being made fun of here.

P.S. I'll be sure try that watering technique, the medium I have them in is just a sprouting medium (Bascially Peat). I bought a bag of miracle grow potting soil with added ferts, supposed to be pretty good. Until they out grow their pots im keeping them in the Peat type medium. Im feeding them diluted Nutes till then. Seems to be pleasing them.

Remember this IS my first attempt. Any Input would be appreciated.

Thanks.

02-10-2007, 09:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
toke>smoke YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	First grow, Help I'v had these two growing for about 2 weeks. I'm using CFL's if that information is needed. Ok... The more developed one is starting to curl, i was told that this may be due to over watering. Not too sure myself though. If this is due to over-watering what are some tips to know when to water and when not to water. As of now i water everytime i check on them, which is 1-2 times a day. Also... The less developed one has been doing very good, its much taller then the other and the leaves are already bigger than the others first set of leaves. Today during my daily check-up I noticed that a small part of one of the leaves has been whats looks like biten off. Can anybody tell me what this is and what to do to stop it. (If its mites wouldnt the other have bite marks also??) Attached Images

02-10-2007, 09:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
shroomy420 YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: cali Posts: 153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	aaaaaaaaaaaaah dude get mite control those little bastards ate my first beautiful plant has ur plant been outside????? those things are everywhere i left my first plant out for ONE week cuz i was on vocation and it needed to be watered and when i got back it was HUGE bug EATEN ALIVE AAAAAAH SAVE THE PLANT MAN PLZ __________________ y is the key to happiness locked up? keep smoking till those pigs fly

02-10-2007, 09:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
shroomy420 YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: cali Posts: 153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	wow dude to be honest i really dont know i hope it isnt mites as they are horrible and i hate them i cant think of anyting other than that cuz there really really small i found a caterpiller on mine once he was nice but mites are bad look for eggs n shit under the leaves or bugs anything un plant like post another pic? __________________ y is the key to happiness locked up? keep smoking till those pigs fly

02-10-2007, 10:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
shroomy420 YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: cali Posts: 153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	o yea dude stop watering soo much how close are your lights??? u need very very close and as for water nutrisioucse and not too much when the soil seems dry to you give it a lil love __________________ y is the key to happiness locked up? keep smoking till those pigs fly

02-10-2007, 10:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
shroomy420 YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: cali Posts: 153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hmm can i see your entire set up??? u can have ur lights 1-2 inches from the plant and the bottled water is fine any nutrients u can find will be fine if ur bored u can piss in the water for sum yum yums it will smell tho keeps the plant warm as well always good give me the details __________________ y is the key to happiness locked up? keep smoking till those pigs fly

02-10-2007, 09:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
toke>smoke YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nah, these babies have been inside their entire life, so far. What is a good form of Mite control though, and how much am i looking to spend. I'll Probably buy some to be safe.

02-10-2007, 10:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
toke>smoke YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My lights are all about 4-5 inches away as of now. I have only been using bottled water to water them. Any changes that need to be made concerning water or lighting??

02-10-2007, 10:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
toke>smoke YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'll try and get pics of the entire set up. Probably put em up tomrrow.

02-11-2007, 02:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
Pharm Girl Weeding the Garden.~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,534 Blog Entries: 13 Thanks: 2,996 Thanked 1,176 Times in 894 Posts	Just a few things........bear with me~ You must arm yourself with the Nutrient Deficiency Chart, when Dan threw that up, I was like in weed heaven. And what is your soil recipe? I need to know wether poor in nitrogen....... Have you got a fan on 'em? Is there ventilation? Plant a garlic bulb in each plant.........again Dan had mentioned that and sure enough I was growing garlic too...... Stickies are good too.......but I do believe that first you must identify which varmit you have. Only water when the pots are light...........I find that keeping 'em slighty on the dry side that I have greater chances of getting females. And what are you using to fertilize? Do you let your water sit 24 hours before use to evaporate the non-essentials that some from city water. And what is the ppm and ph of your water? Sorry about all the q's, but they will be answered before the Sun sets in Texas. __________________ .....The Time has Come to 'Walk the Talk'.....~ ......A message for ALL from the Deer Tribe...~ It is a great journey — but you must do the walking and have the willingness to change and make the leap into the next level of human evolution. Become an inquisitive free thinking individual that takes responsibility for your life and the spiritual accountability to live life to the fullest. *Fuck the Monkeys*

02-11-2007, 09:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
toke>smoke YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	WOW, Thanks for taking your time evaluating my problem, im a first time grower and all this new to me. bare with me please. 1st off, what is the Nutrient Deficiency Chart?? Yes, theres ventilation , I have a fan going most of them time. Im a confused about this garlic thing, can you explain alil bit more. Stickies?? I am using no ferts right now, due to being new, I thought I woulnt use any until I got the hang of it and they were a lil bigger. I use bottled water to wayer them, does this still need to be sitting for 24 hours before i can use it? I might have away to check the ph of my water, ill look after I have further help thanks so much,

02-11-2007, 09:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
toke>smoke YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh and BTW, Im almost certain I have mites on both plants, I put the plants in my garage where its cold, because i read that mites cant live in too cold of weather. I only put the plants in there for a couple hours, it didnt seam to hurt it anymore than they already were. Hopefully I can get out today and buy some ladybugs, I did some research and they are pretty cheap and effective.

02-11-2007, 10:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
shroomy420 YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: cali Posts: 153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	mm its better to try and save the plants then kill the bugs cuz it hurts the plants too go to the nearest store where they have gardening supplies and get mite dust or something __________________ y is the key to happiness locked up? keep smoking till those pigs fly

02-12-2007, 10:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
Blippy The Slug Der Bongmeißter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aquarium Posts: 1,369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	For mites, try Sunlight (brand) dishwashing liquid, diluted 1 drop to 3 oz water. 12 oz = 4 drops, 16 oz = 5 drops. Mist the plant with this, make sure you get under the leaves. Let dry 20 minutes. Mist/rinse with clean water. Do this 2 ot 4 times daily till the mites go away, then every other day for a week, then once a week. ----- That one leaf looks more gnawed than anything to me, like from a caterpiller or wandering herbivorous bug. Can you actually see the bugs? If they look like tiny red slivers, or tiny gnats, those are (semi) ok. If you have to use a magnifier, and find them under/inside your leaves, and see little tiny webs under your leaves... that's more like mites. Tiny green caterpillers (inchworms & smaller) are also sometimes hard to spot. __________________ I am currently not on air, but SpikedTeaRadio is! SpikedTeaRadio! Putting our dicks in the mashed potatoes since 2005! THURSDAYS 8pm-? EST/5pm-? PST IRC: irc.p2p-network.net #spikedtearadio http://www.spikedtearadio.com Last edited by Blippy The Slug; 02-12-2007 at 10:12 AM.

02-12-2007, 06:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
toke>smoke YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK, great I just went out and bought a spray that kills a number of different mites/bugs. I'll try the soap before I use the spray, It sounds a lot safer for the plant. Thanks Blip.

02-12-2007, 06:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pharm Girl Weeding the Garden.~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,534 Blog Entries: 13 Thanks: 2,996 Thanked 1,176 Times in 894 Posts	http://www.yahooka.com/forum/showthr...ent+deficiency One Chart that is a definite keeper~

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02-12-2007, 07:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
Pharm Girl Weeding the Garden.~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,534 Blog Entries: 13 Thanks: 2,996 Thanked 1,176 Times in 894 Posts	Don't forget the recipe that uses rubbing alcohol diluted slightly. I tried it and it worked......but u must repeat every 3 days. Usually twice does the trick......but u don't do this under the HPS........ __________________ .....The Time has Come to 'Walk the Talk'.....~ ......A message for ALL from the Deer Tribe...~ It is a great journey — but you must do the walking and have the willingness to change and make the leap into the next level of human evolution. Become an inquisitive free thinking individual that takes responsibility for your life and the spiritual accountability to live life to the fullest. *Fuck the Monkeys*

02-21-2007, 09:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
toke>smoke YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	HEY, Just wanted to post an update on the babies. I'v got the mites under control after a few days battling them with different remedys. The first set of leaves were completely yellowed and dried out in the first baby, I trimmed those off and and the other set which was about 80% yellowed and it has really shot up since then. I was wondering if the experts on yahooka would be able to tell if these are of any perticular strian. They are from bagseed, But I saved up the seeds from many different smokes with buddies that get pretty good bud. One being NL, does the second baby show characteristics of NL at all. It sprouted about 5 days later than babie 1 and seems to grow a lot quicker. Isnt this a characteristc of NL (Well adapted to indoor growing) also I noticed the leaves are thinner and longer like NL right?? Thanks, P.S. Baby 1 is refering to the one that only has 1 pic of the single plant in it. Baby 2 is the one with two single pics of the it. Attached Images

02-21-2007, 10:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
rastaman2112 The MC Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: east coast US Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	"Plant a garlic bulb in each plant.........again Dan had mentioned that and sure enough I was growing garlic too......" wtf garlic? y? i dont get it? __________________ y isnt my bowl packed again!?

02-22-2007, 02:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
toke>smoke YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wunderblüten?? lol, Is this an actual strain, or am I being made fun of here. P.S. I'll be sure try that watering technique, the medium I have them in is just a sprouting medium (Bascially Peat). I bought a bag of miracle grow potting soil with added ferts, supposed to be pretty good. Until they out grow their pots im keeping them in the Peat type medium. Im feeding them diluted Nutes till then. Seems to be pleasing them. Remember this IS my first attempt. Any Input would be appreciated. Thanks.

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