ISO2 Isomerizer - Page 3

Captain Cannabis · 10-31-2008, 05:50 PM

that is not the right type of funnel you need. you want a buchner funnel

C_ka · 10-31-2008, 05:58 PM

sintered funnel should be ok if you use enough solvent.

not very big though :/

elric40 · 11-01-2008, 06:42 AM

yea, like I posted before...I'm not a chemist but I had always planned to buy pieces separately and assemble using a buchner funnel......I think this would work......you could probably filter 3-4 grams at a time in solution in this......this guy might even rig one up....ya never know until you ask...

and these are aspirators, not distillers....took me 10 minutes of googling to remember/find the name........."of all the things I've lost, I miss my marbles the most" Opus the Penguin - Bloom County

The link the GHIB lists on ebay for the s. acid...they have a lot of stuff cheap...a 7$ buchner funnel? That's suspiciously almost too cheap.....i thought they'd run 50$ or so.....

I just thought this was interesting (and damned convenient) if it didn't work, wouldn't you just need a rubber stopper and a b. funnel to modify it?

Captain Cannabis · 11-01-2008, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C_ka

sintered funnel should be ok if you use enough solvent.

not very big though :/

a sintered funnel is for recovering liquid (by filtering out solid with the help of some celite). he wants a buchner funnel and vacuum trap for recovering the solid.

elric40 · 11-02-2008, 04:21 PM

Looky Looky what I found........

and hang on, I thought I had some Sulfuric Acid, I gotta order some, then I'll take some pics and step by step this process just like the original instructions and the Toluene process......

Captain Cannabis · 11-02-2008, 04:29 PM

yeah! thats the one you want. see if you can get the correct sized filter paper shipped with it.

Geeno · 11-02-2008, 06:02 PM

I have a feeling this guy is going to chemically dissolve the space-time continuum.

elric40 · 11-03-2008, 05:51 PM

Okee Dokee, it's all been ordered, be here by the end of the week

Now THIS is what Aurora Indica will do to ya:

Twas the night before the election and everything was dead
Not a creature was stirring, except elric40, a doped up old head
The Iso2 beckoned, just a day or two before,
So he went to the hall closet and opened the door

He armed it up gently but hey what the shit
My sulfuric acid’s missing, ain’t that the pits?
His internet started buzzing like thousands of bees
But its awfully hard to type with a bong twixt your knees

Ah come hence Ebay my old reliable friend
Lets find that acid and a few drug laws we’ll bend
Snag the aspirator and we’re nearly done
“How much shall we make?” "hell at least a ton"

Now the soxhlet basket is broken, so what will we use?
No use getting excited or blowing your fuse.
Hell, what is that there, over in yon pantry?
It’s a galvanized sifter, whasamada, can’t you see?

Jesus T.F. Christ it’ll hold a whole pound!
Nah, 5 or 6 ozs ground up, I’m on solid ground
Sep funnel, stand, and alcohol are waiting
With toluene and videocam we’ll be soon separating

The sweetest cleanest oil in the land heretofore known
It’ll be the highest trip ever, without having flown
On UPS, on Fedex now bring me my shit
Cause I’m six years overdue for my hashoil bong hit

Whadya think….quit my day job?

It's A Way Of Life420 · 11-05-2008, 01:03 PM

genius

repteur · 11-23-2008, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScooterMan

I have an ISO2 isomerizer, made by Thai Power Incorporated. It was made in 1974, and uses alcohol to extract THC and essential oils from marijuana. There were no instructions with it when I found it. I researched it and found that it creates a zero oxygen environment, which causes cannibinoids to take on a molecule of carbon, becoming THC. It also uses "isomerization', essentially adding a small amount of Sulphuric acid which converts the THC to THC-delta-9. My question is does anyone have experience with this machine? I have researched it for years, and I have the formula down in every way but the amount of acid and the time needed for isomerization. I have made hundreds of grams of hash oil, and every now and then the oil was so potent most people (including myself) essentially got so high it was unbelievable. If anyone has some info, it would be greatly appreciated!!! I hope there are some old school heads out there who can help me. Thanks in advance for any help.

can you post a pic. There were a few different brands back in the day. I'm not sure what you have. Basically the way it worked back in the late 70s was you would run pot through it. iT WOULD extract resin from the pot then you would coat good pot with the resin. The resin would be like black or tar looking. You would then smoke the pot in a pipe because it would be to moist to smoke in a joint. I stopped seeing iso 2 pot in the late 70s. You could by a nice machine out of hightimes back then for 300.00 dollars. Also the company that sold you the iso 2 machine would also sell the the can of chemicals along with directions on how to use it.

repteur · 11-23-2008, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamingnun

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that thing looks dangerously awesome.

The one i'm thinking of isn''t that one.

ScooterMan · 11-25-2008, 12:19 PM

Mine is visually identical to elrics (well it used to be, I painted it and put a "Honeywell Humidifier" plate on it to disguise it), and I can't find the vac trap (dammit). I'm laying low right now (see my other post ), but I'm following this thread closely! Yeah, the first extraction is a dark green/black oil, and I add white pine resin as a binder (tastes good and is supposed to be medicinal), and use powdered bud to solidify it. Please, master elric, continue with your presentation!:1peace :

clarence101 · 11-23-2009, 04:24 PM

Hey Elric40 is there anyway to extract the step by step process for using this cool ufo iso machine?? out of you??? my husband dragged it out the other day :0) BUT he does not remember the step by step process and what all you use I have searched and searched for some instructions with out luck. I really would appreciate any info you would be willing to share .....Thank YOU!!!

dolly llama · 12-06-2009, 05:00 PM

Hey Elric40 is there anyway to extract the step by step process for using this cool ufo iso machine?? out of you??? my husband dragged it out the other day :0) BUT he does not remember the step by step process and what all you use I have searched and searched for some instructions with out luck. I really would appreciate any info you would be willing to share .....Thank YOU!!!

[B][SIZE="3"]Do you

Mydriasis · 12-06-2009, 06:04 PM

You don't need an isomerizer. Just use acetone and extract the cbds from plant material or hemp plants(no need to do this with good bud). Then reflux with HCL at PH 2. I bet malic acid would even work and you can get that food-grade from a brew store. This completes the B-Ring on the CBDs to form thc-6 by adding a Hydrogen atom. Evaporate to solid. Do a couple water washes. and poof.

marc · 01-14-2010, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScooterMan

I have an ISO2 isomerizer, made by Thai Power Incorporated. It was made in 1974, and uses alcohol to extract THC and essential oils from marijuana. There were no instructions with it when I found it. I researched it and found that it creates a zero oxygen environment, which causes cannibinoids to take on a molecule of carbon, becoming THC. It also uses "isomerization', essentially adding a small amount of Sulphuric acid which converts the THC to THC-delta-9. My question is does anyone have experience with this machine? I have researched it for years, and I have the formula down in every way but the amount of acid and the time needed for isomerization. I have made hundreds of grams of hash oil, and every now and then the oil was so potent most people (including myself) essentially got so high it was unbelievable. If anyone has some info, it would be greatly appreciated!!! I hope there are some old school heads out there who can help me. Thanks in advance for any help.

i have directions to this machine

crookedhatinator45 · 01-14-2010, 07:53 PM

duuuuuuuuuuuuude-- you can use the isomerizer to make budder from hash oil!!!!!!

[budder aka. terminator = 88-98% thc]

jackstraw62 · 03-03-2010, 01:10 PM

where do I start. I owned a iso 2 and I had lot of fun with it. the acid question. isomerization requires cooking the solvent solute mixture in an mostly oxygen free environment for 1 hr. I used to use litmus paper to test for acidity and neutralization . the instructions said the extraction and the isomerization where two steps. I combined them after a while with no discernible problems. Exraction is complete when the product looks like dried sand .I used to use a thc test kit that I bought in a head shop. the instructions say go to hash and then extract the hash to oil. waste of time if you ask me. There is a book called "Marijuana Potency" by Michael Stark that you need to find. It is very informative about solvents and techniques. I was able to make red oil out of leaf. The advertisement said change bunk to good. bull with garbage yield sucks.
P.S. you can make your own easily.

Solargardens · 03-05-2010, 07:18 PM

Hey Just a quick FYI I have copies Uof the ISO-2 listed on ebay. I sold the unit last week
I also have a list of baseline parameters, lamp wattage, light center etc. taken from the unit before I sold it. i will relist copies as they are sold.
Hope this information helps somebody out!!!

Mike

mrlucky_us · 03-16-2010, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScooterMan

I have a vacuum system that hooks to your kitchen faucet, you make a charcoal slurry in the unit and use water flow to pull the oil through the slurry. It wastes a LOT, but the end honey oil is SOOOOOO pure, the buzz is just heart poundingly narcotic!!! People accused me of putting meth in it, it can be so powerful!

Dear Sirs,

Could you please show me what parts make up your kitchen faucet vacuum system?

ISO2- check
Sulfuric acid- check
cleaning solution- no check...this is where I need help. I've done my homework but I haven't been able to discern exactly what parts are needed to make charcoal slurry...6 years of higher education be dammed.

10-31-2008, 05:50 PM	#41 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,849 Thanks: 2,580 Thanked 2,915 Times in 1,679 Posts	that is not the right type of funnel you need. you want a buchner funnel __________________ fuck the monkeys

10-31-2008, 05:58 PM	#42 (permalink)
C_ka Safe mode Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 935 Thanks: 147 Thanked 31 Times in 26 Posts	sintered funnel should be ok if you use enough solvent. not very big though :/ __________________ "yes i smoke shit straight off the roach clip.." - Cypress Hill "Years ago I recognized my kinship with all living things, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on the earth. I said then and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." — Eugene V. Debs [KEEP NZ GREEN]

11-01-2008, 06:42 AM	#43 (permalink)
elric40 YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA Posts: 123 Thanks: 18 Thanked 38 Times in 27 Posts	yea, like I posted before...I'm not a chemist but I had always planned to buy pieces separately and assemble using a buchner funnel......I think this would work......you could probably filter 3-4 grams at a time in solution in this......this guy might even rig one up....ya never know until you ask... and these are aspirators, not distillers....took me 10 minutes of googling to remember/find the name........."of all the things I've lost, I miss my marbles the most" Opus the Penguin - Bloom County The link the GHIB lists on ebay for the s. acid...they have a lot of stuff cheap...a 7$ buchner funnel? That's suspiciously almost too cheap.....i thought they'd run 50$ or so..... I just thought this was interesting (and damned convenient) if it didn't work, wouldn't you just need a rubber stopper and a b. funnel to modify it? Last edited by elric40; 11-01-2008 at 06:50 AM.

11-02-2008, 04:21 PM	#45 (permalink)
elric40 YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA Posts: 123 Thanks: 18 Thanked 38 Times in 27 Posts	Looky Looky what I found........ and hang on, I thought I had some Sulfuric Acid, I gotta order some, then I'll take some pics and step by step this process just like the original instructions and the Toluene process...... Last edited by Pharm Girl; 10-04-2010 at 12:56 PM. Reason: buy/sell

11-02-2008, 04:29 PM	#46 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,849 Thanks: 2,580 Thanked 2,915 Times in 1,679 Posts	yeah! thats the one you want. see if you can get the correct sized filter paper shipped with it. __________________ fuck the monkeys

11-03-2008, 05:51 PM	#48 (permalink)
elric40 YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA Posts: 123 Thanks: 18 Thanked 38 Times in 27 Posts	Okee Dokee, it's all been ordered, be here by the end of the week Now THIS is what Aurora Indica will do to ya: Twas the night before the election and everything was dead Not a creature was stirring, except elric40, a doped up old head The Iso2 beckoned, just a day or two before, So he went to the hall closet and opened the door He armed it up gently but hey what the shit My sulfuric acid’s missing, ain’t that the pits? His internet started buzzing like thousands of bees But its awfully hard to type with a bong twixt your knees Ah come hence Ebay my old reliable friend Lets find that acid and a few drug laws we’ll bend Snag the aspirator and we’re nearly done “How much shall we make?” "hell at least a ton" Now the soxhlet basket is broken, so what will we use? No use getting excited or blowing your fuse. Hell, what is that there, over in yon pantry? It’s a galvanized sifter, whasamada, can’t you see? Jesus T.F. Christ it’ll hold a whole pound! Nah, 5 or 6 ozs ground up, I’m on solid ground Sep funnel, stand, and alcohol are waiting With toluene and videocam we’ll be soon separating The sweetest cleanest oil in the land heretofore known It’ll be the highest trip ever, without having flown On UPS, on Fedex now bring me my shit Cause I’m six years overdue for my hashoil bong hit Whadya think….quit my day job? Last edited by elric40; 11-04-2008 at 04:53 PM. Reason: spelling

11-05-2008, 01:03 PM	#49 (permalink)
It's A Way Of Life420 Mr. Nice Guy Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SoDak Posts: 565 Thanks: 11 Thanked 28 Times in 25 Posts	genius __________________ In the San Francisco jail Before he got out on bail Kesey met a kid with magic fingernails. "Take a lick," said the kid And everybody did. They all licked his nails and blew their lids. Twenty-seven psyches Going off like Nike Missiles through the lye-scoured Concrete skyways of the San Francisco Jail. The kid had LSD on his magic fingernails.

11-25-2008, 12:19 PM	#52 (permalink)
ScooterMan He was a quiet man.. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: third stone from the sun Posts: 252 Thanks: 66 Thanked 51 Times in 34 Posts	Well.... Mine is visually identical to elrics (well it used to be, I painted it and put a "Honeywell Humidifier" plate on it to disguise it), and I can't find the vac trap (dammit). I'm laying low right now (see my other post ), but I'm following this thread closely! Yeah, the first extraction is a dark green/black oil, and I add white pine resin as a binder (tastes good and is supposed to be medicinal), and use powdered bud to solidify it. Please, master elric, continue with your presentation!:1peace : __________________ Let me get this straight, I can go to the store and buy a bottle of legal poison and get drunk, and buy a pack of cancer, but I can't use a plant that grows wild in the ditch and has never killed anyone? Hypocrisy is never intelligent. Last edited by ScooterMan; 11-25-2008 at 12:22 PM.

11-23-2009, 04:24 PM	#53 (permalink)
clarence101 YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey Elric40 is there anyway to extract the step by step process for using this cool ufo iso machine?? out of you??? my husband dragged it out the other day :0) BUT he does not remember the step by step process and what all you use I have searched and searched for some instructions with out luck. I really would appreciate any info you would be willing to share .....Thank YOU!!!

12-06-2009, 05:00 PM	#54 (permalink)
dolly llama YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	clarence101 <iso machine> Hey Elric40 is there anyway to extract the step by step process for using this cool ufo iso machine?? out of you??? my husband dragged it out the other day :0) BUT he does not remember the step by step process and what all you use I have searched and searched for some instructions with out luck. I really would appreciate any info you would be willing to share .....Thank YOU!!! [B][SIZE="3"]Do you Last edited by slunt; 12-07-2009 at 08:15 AM. Reason: buy/sell

12-06-2009, 06:04 PM	#55 (permalink)
Mydriasis Do Not Resuscitate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,317 Thanks: 840 Thanked 431 Times in 298 Posts	You don't need an isomerizer. Just use acetone and extract the cbds from plant material or hemp plants(no need to do this with good bud). Then reflux with HCL at PH 2. I bet malic acid would even work and you can get that food-grade from a brew store. This completes the B-Ring on the CBDs to form thc-6 by adding a Hydrogen atom. Evaporate to solid. Do a couple water washes. and poof. __________________ ۞ Last edited by Mydriasis; 12-06-2009 at 06:06 PM.

03-03-2010, 01:10 PM	#58 (permalink)
jackstraw62 YaHookan Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Iso 2 where do I start. I owned a iso 2 and I had lot of fun with it. the acid question. isomerization requires cooking the solvent solute mixture in an mostly oxygen free environment for 1 hr. I used to use litmus paper to test for acidity and neutralization . the instructions said the extraction and the isomerization where two steps. I combined them after a while with no discernible problems. Exraction is complete when the product looks like dried sand .I used to use a thc test kit that I bought in a head shop. the instructions say go to hash and then extract the hash to oil. waste of time if you ask me. There is a book called "Marijuana Potency" by Michael Stark that you need to find. It is very informative about solvents and techniques. I was able to make red oil out of leaf. The advertisement said change bunk to good. bull with garbage yield sucks. P.S. you can make your own easily.

03-05-2010, 07:18 PM	#59 (permalink)
Solargardens YaHookan Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beautiful southern Cal Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey Just a quick FYI I have copies Uof the ISO-2 listed on ebay. I sold the unit last week I also have a list of baseline parameters, lamp wattage, light center etc. taken from the unit before I sold it. i will relist copies as they are sold. Hope this information helps somebody out!!! Mike Last edited by Pharm Girl; 10-04-2010 at 12:54 PM. Reason: e-bay link not allowed

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