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YaHookan
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ISO2 Extractor Isomerizer
Hey guys. I have been following what you have been saying nad just wanted to let you know that I have one of these units (ISO 2 Extractor) and would like to
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I am new to this forum thing and have never even signed up for anything like this before, but I will try to figure out how to put pictures in here ok. Any quick ideas that will help me? Let me know.
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Icould use that machine.hope it has the basket and glass cup. let me know!! ossmosis13
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elic40 hay hows it going. You are the first person that seems to understand this machine. I dont know if I just did the right thing but I found one and bought it. I live in colorado and its a medical mmj state. So there is a bit of sweet leaf trim leaf rolling around in these parts. super stickie. everyone here is making earwax butain hash BHO and I think its super dangerous. I personally know 2 people that almost did a lot of damage to themselves. I saw a brand new ISO2 on e bay and I kind of impulsed bought it. Funny got the thing for 400 buck plus 20 shipping LOL 420. had to buy it. Anyways I have found all of what you said is needed to clean up the oil. Here are the links I have found for the stuff. Tell me if its right?? I found the acid in concentrated is that how you use it or is it the 22 % stuff??
Reagent Grade Sulfuric Acid, Concentrated, 32oz for sale. Buy from The Science Company. Buy Toluene - 1 Gallon- Sky Geek, Skygeek Pilot, Pilot Supplies, PRIST® Aerospace Products, I have found the glassware pretty easy. You can get a 500ml one with a glass pepcock for like 30 bucks. pretty easy e bay. So I originally was going to build a kief machine with a screen drum that spins and goes into a large deer freezer with a orbit sander on it to help shake and adjitate. I think I'm still going to build this to and make kief as well. Oil drives a big price per gram in CO. I have done a lot of looking into iso and I am just kind of figuring it out. I get the fact that it leaches everything from the plant and then you remove the plant left overs with the cleaning process. But does it leave you with the same thing as BHO or is it truly different from the isomersation process. Did I do the right thing by buying this. I keep seeing people dump on it on forums. But I am guessing that is because they dont understand what it is or how to run it???. Through my searching I found this as well. What is your input on this machine??? Its dam expensive and quite large. I'm guessing its basically the same type of thing though. Herbal Extractors Coldfinger for Sale The large unit works under a vacume and re circulates its solvent back into the machine I guess?? Is this basically a iso2 machine?? so here is what I gathered from your post on how to use it. Lets see if I'm right on step 1 :use dry leaf and mill it up in a blender step 2 : place leaf evenly in a coffee filter in the cup with holes step 3 : use 99% iso alcohol and run the machine for a couple hours. I have read you can use everclear and other things?? Which is the best to use?? during this 3rd step is there ice on the top of the machine. I'm guessing yes. step 4 : add two drops of the sulfuric acid. maybe 3 or 4 if you have it stuffed. 2 drops per cup of alcohol. Is this 22% or 99 % sulfuric acid?? and then run for 2 more hours?? still with ice on the top. step 5 open and add 2 pinches of baking soda to stop the acid and mix. Do I then re run the machine?? step 6 then mix this alcohol with equal parts water and stir. then add 1/3 equivalent measure of toluene and mix. Then place in a seperation container and let settle. Remove the bottom waste material leaving the toluene and oil. step 7 remove container with plant material and replace with glass and place the toluene oil mixture back into the iso machine and run until the toluene is vaped off step 8 all thats left is clean oil is this right??? any additional insight would be great. I got a ton of leaf to run. I was thinking of doing the kief and maybe using the oil as a binder. But honestly I can get top dollar for the oil if its made right. Not many are doing this right in colorado at all. There is a lot of crap bho rolling around that is super chemically. YUCKKK |
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if you would like to e mail me directly at puffah@yahoo.com thats fine
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Hey, puffah thats some trick glassware on that site,yes same principle looks
more modern I guess. A couple thoughts,dust material good,machine must be run for many hours two to three days if possible at a time,run material until it looks pail, should drie out grayish,you can run fresh material while last basket dries to see,just keep water in the sump closer to the top the better check every four to five hours,you will learn pattern varies with temp used,if you ever smell solvent used shut down temp a bit,everclear is the best, IPA second choice,when acid is used and run, plant material should be removed during this step,when nutralized just needs to be agitated good no running required,as far as the seperation sounds good,I might also say you should cut a bit back before you activate with acid that you can run through seperation to determine change in buzz and flavor of oil,some strains of the plant do not contain as much of the exact chemical as others that you are altering with the acid so this is of great interist,some rope hemp versions of cannibus will have more a change in the quanity of true THC from activation than good smoke sometimes,enjoy |
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ebay?
We're not an auction mart here, there are plenty of other places on the interwebs to buy and sell.
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Talk about strolling down memory lane...I remember when those 1st hit the scene. I was debating on getting 1, but it was like $150 [something like that] & in 1974, I couldn't justify my spending that on something I wasn't even sure worked OK.
I bought a Toker II for $25 instead. Then when those all but faded away & didn't see them advertised anymore, I figured they weren't any good. Now it sounds like an investment I should've made.
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to be perfectly honest, if you are interested in doing the exact same thing without the machine.. you can do it relatively cheaply with a bit of glassware and some chemistry knowledge. the machine isn't magical. its principles can be transferred to some other device depending on your level of interest
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Just been reading your articles. Pretty much right on the shit. Someone mentioned "Oil Extractors". Check out Heartmagic.com. Lot's of cool toys.
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there's one on ebay now, but they're asking $2500.00 buy it now and $100 shipping.
kind of reminds me of the hash extractors I used to see in eastern canada waaaaaaaaaaay back, except those were a tad bigger, just kept heating up the extractant and running it thru the media....in 55 gal drums. (yeah, good times, not a lick of stainless to be seen, but the guys who I saw doing it weren't exactly in it for purity, but I got the jist of the operation. something that's prolly been mentioned a bunch but worth throwing out there yet again is a great book "Cannabis Alchemy" by D. Gold. Last edited by Shadowpianoman; 10-18-2011 at 02:05 PM. |
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I have 2 ISO2's for sale includes the instructions. I will try to post pictures I am located in WA State, N Idaho area. I can't post pictures. Send pvt e-mail and I will send them thru my e mail to you if you are interested. My car broke down and I need to have it fixed ASAP
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