bulbs ok?

braindead420 · 01-17-2009, 10:12 PM

if two are used. 40W, 4100K, 3200 Lumens, 48 inch bulbs. just for one or two children.

**farmergiles** · 01-18-2009, 04:57 AM

Fluorescent tubes?
Might be just about OK for veg, a bit more oomph would be good for flowering. Remember that that 40w is spread along 48".

Dandaweedman · 01-18-2009, 09:45 AM

the 2000K-2500K are for flowering and the higher numbers... 5000K-5500K are for veg.
http://www.yahooka.com/forum/faq.php?faq=gfaqtext23

braindead420 · 01-18-2009, 04:26 PM

so two flourescent tube bulbs. 40W,4100K, 3200 Lumens, 48 inch bulbs will work? i am one broke muthafucka so cheap as possible is what im lookin for. i heard with flourescent bulbs like these the whole process will work fine it will just take a little while longer?

stoneric · 01-18-2009, 04:36 PM

You will never grow potent pot from start to finish with those lights.

Dandaweedman · 01-18-2009, 04:40 PM

I have seen guys who flower by leaning a floro against a wall over a plant and turning the plant every few days.
Slunt is right and floro tubes aren't very efficient. But a few shop lights placed vertically in a box for a couple plants...

6 shop floros with 2 tubes a piece, 2 on each longer wall and 1 on each side wall of the small grow chamber maybe?

It's been done for decades now, so why not?

braindead420 · 01-18-2009, 05:28 PM

damn.. i guess ill jus see what happens then, no way i can afford 6 shop flouros. im also trying to get a clone at the moment. but yea..

Dandaweedman · 01-18-2009, 07:48 PM

Better yet.

braindead420 · 01-18-2009, 07:54 PM

by manual help are you reffering to tieing or topping? or if im mistaken please xplain. and im going to try to get another set to lean sideways against the wall so that there are top lites and side lites.

**farmergiles** · 01-19-2009, 01:29 PM

Tying would work best for a screen. With topping you`re wasting the plant`s energy as you cut it back.

braindead420 · 01-19-2009, 11:00 PM

check out this idea. lemme know if it would work

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...cene17/fjh.jpg

**farmergiles** · 01-20-2009, 12:24 AM

It would work but it looks like your losing most of the light from the tube on the right. Cfl`s would probably be the easiest and cheapest to add.

braindead420 · 01-20-2009, 11:33 AM

how many cfls u think would be ok? and what watt?

**farmergiles** · 01-20-2009, 12:44 PM

Many as you like. 20w? 12w? Whatever you can get for the right price I guess especially if they give off the right colour like what Dan said.

braindead420 · 01-21-2009, 09:20 PM

got two flouros. 48 inch, 3200 Lumens. 4100k, 40w each.

Total; 6400L, 8200K, 80W

got two cfl bulbs. 30W equivalent to 120W. 2000L 3500K

total; 4000L, 7000K, 60W = 240W

final; 10,400 Lumens, 15,200 K, 320W

good or no?

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...7/check/jb.jpg

if the pic doesnt pop up and a password box duz the pw is scalpel17

**farmergiles** · 01-22-2009, 12:49 AM

Should be good.

Ignore the bit where they say "equivalent to". For this purpose a 30w cfl = 30w. So you`ve got 140w total.

Also you don`t add the colour temperature together- two blue lights don`t make an ultra violet light. So you`ve got 80w at 4100K and 60w at 3500K for a total of 10400 Lumens.

braindead420 · 01-22-2009, 08:04 AM

ah i see. so you say this should work just fine? all these terms are confusing as hell right now. maybe cuz i jus woke up n burnt a j, or maybe cuz im stupid. but once again i wanna thank everybody for helpin me out n everything. as progress is made, or questions are needed i will be sure to let you guys know.

braindead420 · 01-22-2009, 02:07 PM

couple quick questions. for veg and all that use light 24 hours right? and use 24 hour light for the whole process until flowering? and when its time to flower switch to 12/12? and does it matter when you flower? or do the ladies gotta be a certain age

**farmergiles** · 01-22-2009, 03:49 PM

24/24 is good for veg.

It`s often best to wait until the plant wants to flower. You can tell when this is because they show the preliminary signs of flowering. This is called preflowering. When it shows will depend on the strain and environment.

Google to find photos.

There are ways around having to wait for preflowering to happen. If you have a clone of a plant that has already reached preflowering then you can flower as soon as it has roots for good effect.

Flowering is induced by changing the light schedule to 12/24 or less.

Flowering a plant before it shows preflowering will usually take longer and might stress the plant. Some strains will take it better than others I guess.

braindead420 · 01-22-2009, 11:32 PM

by 24/24 do u mean 24 hours on and 24 off. or just 24 all around until flowering? and 12/24, 12 on and 24 off? im inexperienced, i have only grown a clone and it was sun grown in the summer. so this is my first indoor grow.

01-17-2009, 10:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	bulbs ok? if two are used. 40W, 4100K, 3200 Lumens, 48 inch bulbs. just for one or two children. __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

01-18-2009, 04:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	Fluorescent tubes? Might be just about OK for veg, a bit more oomph would be good for flowering. Remember that that 40w is spread along 48". __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

01-18-2009, 09:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,414 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	the 2000K-2500K are for flowering and the higher numbers... 5000K-5500K are for veg. http://www.yahooka.com/forum/faq.php?faq=gfaqtext23 __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

01-18-2009, 04:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	so two flourescent tube bulbs. 40W,4100K, 3200 Lumens, 48 inch bulbs will work? i am one broke muthafucka so cheap as possible is what im lookin for. i heard with flourescent bulbs like these the whole process will work fine it will just take a little while longer? __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

01-18-2009, 04:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,414 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	I have seen guys who flower by leaning a floro against a wall over a plant and turning the plant every few days. Slunt is right and floro tubes aren't very efficient. But a few shop lights placed vertically in a box for a couple plants... 6 shop floros with 2 tubes a piece, 2 on each longer wall and 1 on each side wall of the small grow chamber maybe? It's been done for decades now, so why not? __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

01-18-2009, 04:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,222 Thanks: 430 Thanked 1,246 Times in 892 Posts	You will never grow potent pot from start to finish with those lights.

01-18-2009, 05:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	damn.. i guess ill jus see what happens then, no way i can afford 6 shop flouros. im also trying to get a clone at the moment. but yea.. __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

01-18-2009, 07:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,414 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	Better yet. __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

01-18-2009, 07:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	by manual help are you reffering to tieing or topping? or if im mistaken please xplain. and im going to try to get another set to lean sideways against the wall so that there are top lites and side lites. __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

01-19-2009, 01:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	Tying would work best for a screen. With topping you`re wasting the plant`s energy as you cut it back. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

01-19-2009, 11:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	check out this idea. lemme know if it would work http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...cene17/fjh.jpg __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

01-20-2009, 12:24 AM	#12 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	It would work but it looks like your losing most of the light from the tube on the right. Cfl`s would probably be the easiest and cheapest to add. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

01-20-2009, 11:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	how many cfls u think would be ok? and what watt? __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

01-20-2009, 12:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	Many as you like. 20w? 12w? Whatever you can get for the right price I guess especially if they give off the right colour like what Dan said. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

01-21-2009, 09:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	got two flouros. 48 inch, 3200 Lumens. 4100k, 40w each. Total; 6400L, 8200K, 80W got two cfl bulbs. 30W equivalent to 120W. 2000L 3500K total; 4000L, 7000K, 60W = 240W final; 10,400 Lumens, 15,200 K, 320W good or no? http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...7/check/jb.jpg if the pic doesnt pop up and a password box duz the pw is scalpel17 __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

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01-22-2009, 12:49 AM	#16 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	Should be good. Ignore the bit where they say "equivalent to". For this purpose a 30w cfl = 30w. So you`ve got 140w total. Also you don`t add the colour temperature together- two blue lights don`t make an ultra violet light. So you`ve got 80w at 4100K and 60w at 3500K for a total of 10400 Lumens. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Last edited by farmergiles; 01-22-2009 at 12:51 AM.

01-22-2009, 08:04 AM	#17 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	ah i see. so you say this should work just fine? all these terms are confusing as hell right now. maybe cuz i jus woke up n burnt a j, or maybe cuz im stupid. but once again i wanna thank everybody for helpin me out n everything. as progress is made, or questions are needed i will be sure to let you guys know. __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

01-22-2009, 02:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	couple quick questions. for veg and all that use light 24 hours right? and use 24 hour light for the whole process until flowering? and when its time to flower switch to 12/12? and does it matter when you flower? or do the ladies gotta be a certain age __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

01-22-2009, 03:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	24/24 is good for veg. It`s often best to wait until the plant wants to flower. You can tell when this is because they show the preliminary signs of flowering. This is called preflowering. When it shows will depend on the strain and environment. Google to find photos. There are ways around having to wait for preflowering to happen. If you have a clone of a plant that has already reached preflowering then you can flower as soon as it has roots for good effect. Flowering is induced by changing the light schedule to 12/24 or less. Flowering a plant before it shows preflowering will usually take longer and might stress the plant. Some strains will take it better than others I guess. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

01-22-2009, 11:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	by 24/24 do u mean 24 hours on and 24 off. or just 24 all around until flowering? and 12/24, 12 on and 24 off? im inexperienced, i have only grown a clone and it was sun grown in the summer. so this is my first indoor grow. __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

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