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Old 03-19-2009, 07:23 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Stoner; great news. I agree that I have not seen anything like this Coco stuff for indoor grows. The WW plants that were started in coco had to be changed to veg in 4 weeks because they got too big; I have to top them 3 times so far and they are in their 2nd week of 12/12. They are out of fucking control. I have been using the nutes I had from before (PPB, some Sensi, and other to clear out inventory) and used Rhizotonic for root development and Canazym during veg and now (Canna's nute schedule for particular growing conditions and mediums is great). The largest leaves are 15" tip to tip and 12-13 lobes (I know this is more strain specific but HELL). I only have them in 9 liter square pots but the roots are flowing out of the saucers I have them on. I had to place the pots in my e&f table and modify a drip system to feed the thirsty girls. I need a bigger reservoir. Just 4 plants fills 16SF. I am sold on coco; germing, rooting, cloning, growing, it is the bomb with me. I have found a pre-mix that I believe in now; Botanicare's Ready-Grow Moisture Control mix
Botanicare ReadyGro Moisture Formula - Plant It Earth
Even though it says it can be watered just once a day; I believe that you may need more if the vigor is there and you want to exploit it.
I wish I could post pics; where's your pics Stoner?
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:23 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I think I explained my computer illiteracy. No can do pics.
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:33 PM   #63 (permalink)
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If anyone is interested in growing in coco, try googling "Zoo's canna coco nute feeding schedule". It will take you to thc farmer where there is a thread about growing in coco.
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Old 01-03-2010, 04:36 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Hi,

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" Is Coco the best growing medium? "
I think so, but I'm prejudiced. Coco has a great structure, always has a lot of air in it, and it buffers to the right ph, unlike peat. No need to add lime. All you need to do is ph your nutrients to around 6.0, and you're fine. Easy to flush. In fact, if you make sure you have 20% runoff every time you water/feed, you probably never need to flush.

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" Is there a better Coco product to use than another? "
Yes, I use Canna Coco. No need to flush, you can use it straight out of the bag. Some brands still have too much sodium in it.

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" What needs to be done differently (nutes, care, etc..) for the Coco? "
I have just had success with the easiest grow I ever had - a Lowryder F2 autoflowering plant in coco. No lights, just put it on my balcony and watered it every other day.

Because it is so much like hydro, you can very carefully control nutrient content in the soil.

Monitor runoff, and adjust your nutrient strength by the runoff. If you want an EC of 1.2, and the runoff is 0.8, feed with a nutrient solution of 1.6 (which is 1.2 + (1.2 - 0.8)) until the runoff is at 1.2 EC. Very easy to do.

These numbers should be in addition to the water's EC, which in an mineral based grow is inert - i.e. not available to the plant. So if you want to water with a solution of 1.6 and your water's EC is 0.5, your solution should be 1.6 + 0.5 or 2.1.

It flowered on it's own, with very proliferous resin formation. Great smoke too. The nutrients used were inorganic Canna Coco A + B.

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" Are there specific nutes that need to be used for optimum growing? "
The easiest would be to use the nutrients that go with the brand of coco you use. I would say Canna Coco with Canna Coco A + B.

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" What about the Coco wetting agent? Are they necessary? "
A coco wetting agent is simply a wetting agent that is used in foliar feeding to make nutrients stickier to the leaves. Or to reduce water resistance of dried peat. It has nothing specifically to do with growing in coco coir, it is just coco oil based.

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" And I would like to know if we can process available coconut husks into usable medium from our trees. "
I'm sure that would be possible, but it would be more work involved than is necessary. Cocos has to be flushed because of sodium content. And there are various processes involved in order to maintain the right structure. Why process your own if you can just buy it in a bag? Unless you need lots and lots of it. Coco by the way can be re-used several times.

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thanks dude, i'm going to definitely try this coco stuff.
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:00 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Forgive my ignorance this morning but what does EC stand for?
Electrical Conductivity. It is another way of measuring nutrient salts in a solution. Another way would be PPM or Parts Per Million.

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