Ionisers, deoderising...

**farmergiles** · 01-16-2010, 10:33 AM

Sometimes I get a bit para about dank smells from drying weed.

I could make a drying cab which has a passive exhaust connecting to my flowering cab so that air is sucked in there and into the carbon filter in there. But I don't really want a constant airflow as this will mess up the curing I think, don't want to dry it out too fast.

I've been looking at ionisers. Corona discharge seems to be the best type as you don't have to keep changing uv tubes.

Looking at a couple of models, a Uvonair 8" in line ioniser Uvonair CD-800 ozone generator and a stand alone mountain breeze ioniser Progrow Ozone Generator (Mountain breeze), the difference being one hooks up into a ducting system, one doesn't.

The uvonair is pricey at around £330

, the mountain breeze £145. The mountain breeze looks probably better suited to my needs I think.

I don't know what to think about the dangers of ozone, some people say one thing, others another.

Anyone got any thoughts or experience they could share?

Mydriasis · 01-16-2010, 11:06 AM

In my mind-set, I'm far from an exert, but if expense is the problem. Would it be more practical to maybe build a curing "chamber", or to separate your flowering cabinet from your cure space?

I think that would be a cheaper more cost effective solution.

Although I do understand the desire to not have a carbon filtered fan running the whole way through flowering. So in short, I'm not sure, but those are my 2 cents.

**farmergiles** · 01-16-2010, 11:14 AM

The carbon filter is on 24/7 ALWAYS no doubts!

I'm a little unclear as to what you mean smaerd man-

just to clarify, the problem is the hanging plants that have been cut but not yet dry enough to jar for the cure.
My concern about the drying cab (or curing chamber if you like) teeing into the carbon filter (one way or another) is the flow of air may dry the plants too quickly. Maybe this could be overcome by damping the airflow with an adjustble baffle idk.

Mydriasis · 01-16-2010, 12:23 PM

I misread your post a little haha.

Perlite is good for adding humidity. You just put some in a strainer and pour water on it. It has a big surface area so it holds water and allows it to get whisked away into the air. Just don't use too much or it won't dry. Also concerning mold you could maybe add some h2o2(hydrogen peroxide) onto the perlite just for cautious matters. This MIGHT be a good way to keep a little humidity if you are running a fan the whole day.

I'm going to try to think something up because yea while curing you don't want it stinky, or too moist, or too dry/much air-flow.

A hygrometer might be a worthy investment if you don't have one already. It helps measure the relative humidity in a room/box/wherever it is.

TIG · 03-23-2010, 10:42 AM

Were you able to come to a conclusion on this? I wrestle with odor as well during the cure.

tig

**farmergiles** · 03-24-2010, 02:34 PM

No, I'm no further on with this. Will probably end up getting an ioniser at some stage. Can't seem to find anything which has the right price/performance.

**Pharm Girl** · 03-25-2010, 05:57 AM

Quote:

I don't know what to think about the dangers of ozone, some people say one thing, others another.

I have the Uvonaire+..... (.42 amps) One or two things I might say is that u can definetly smell the light working and it does...I also use it in conjunction with the 6 inch- 18 inch tall carbon filter. Peoples were telling me to put in the vent duct....which I suppose it can but I needed neutralizing in the room to prevent escapes.

Worthy investment!!

**farmergiles** · 03-25-2010, 10:12 AM

One that looks like this I'm guessing.

This is looking like the best bet.

Although I have heard the corona discharge ones are cheaper to run than uv in the long run.

**Pharm Girl** · 03-26-2010, 05:44 AM

We use the 3000 plus model...it's been used in an 8x8x8 room without any odors what so ever....
Replacement bulb can vary depending on size...count on at least 125$ CAN.

**farmergiles** · 03-26-2010, 08:58 AM

Ouch!

panheadfred aka · 04-22-2010, 10:30 AM

I have always used my 8'' big blue ionizer and vent it into the furnace plenium. even with the pungent aroma with the skunks the big blue has never let me down. the 8'' ones can be had forabout $350.00 american if you look real deep in the web.
bigblueairproducts.c om

**farmergiles** · 05-27-2010, 05:43 AM

Found this from the old OG FAQs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterIto

Ozonators can make the smell of even SMELLY strains like Mikado and Romulan practically unnoticeable, unless resin glands are broken by your movements within the grow area. Place the ozonator units in the exhaust line or area or within the grow area itself, above an air circulation or intake/exhaust duct or fan. Purchase a timer to run continuously, except for 30 minutes before and during your scheduled maintenance times. Ozone has a half life of 30 minutes. You may notice a hospital type smell, if ozone levels get higher. Nothing dangerous, but reduced by the use of a timer in the aforementioned fashion. For true stealth, additional ozonators placed in the exhaust line or outside the grow area will take care of any escaping terpenes that have not been oxidized within the garden itself. Larger output inline corona ozonators are preferable for larger vented areas. There are many different sizes for different space requirements, buy the rappropriate size for your area!

Air Tiger up to 5000 cubic feet
Uvonair Junior up to 1000 cubic feet
Uvonair(standard) up to 3000 cubic feet
Uvonair Plus up to 5000 cubic feet

They use UV light to produce ozone and require simple monthly cleaning to keep them in top working condition.They are designed to be safe commercial, office and residential use. They come with an ozone detection card to verify maximum ozone levels and your safety.

UV type ozonator maintenance

The UV bulb gets coated with dust, which reduces the amount of light emitted and therefore the amount of ozone produced. The bulb should be cleaned at least monthly to maintain peak performance. If you have never cleaned your bulb, you are diminishing the unit's effectiveness and will be surprised with the improvement in odor control afterwards.

Nietzsche Notes
A note about UV Ozone Generators
If you must treat the air inside the grow room due to room leaks/smell seepage it is preferable to use a UV ozone generator. UV ozonators using a frequency of 185nm (approx) do not produce nitric acid as a by-product like corona discharge ozonators do. Thus corona discharge ozone generators should only be used in the exhaust system. If using a UV ogzone generator to treat the air inside the room this could damage your plants if the concentration is too high. I also suggest putting it in the air intake so to allow some time for the Ozone to mix with the air and also not to creat a hot spot right next to the ozone machine.

01-16-2010, 10:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	Ionisers, deoderising... Sometimes I get a bit para about dank smells from drying weed. I could make a drying cab which has a passive exhaust connecting to my flowering cab so that air is sucked in there and into the carbon filter in there. But I don't really want a constant airflow as this will mess up the curing I think, don't want to dry it out too fast. I've been looking at ionisers. Corona discharge seems to be the best type as you don't have to keep changing uv tubes. Looking at a couple of models, a Uvonair 8" in line ioniser Uvonair CD-800 ozone generator and a stand alone mountain breeze ioniser Progrow Ozone Generator (Mountain breeze), the difference being one hooks up into a ducting system, one doesn't. The uvonair is pricey at around £330 , the mountain breeze £145. The mountain breeze looks probably better suited to my needs I think. I don't know what to think about the dangers of ozone, some people say one thing, others another. Anyone got any thoughts or experience they could share? __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

01-16-2010, 11:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mydriasis Do Not Resuscitate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,317 Thanks: 840 Thanked 431 Times in 298 Posts	In my mind-set, I'm far from an exert, but if expense is the problem. Would it be more practical to maybe build a curing "chamber", or to separate your flowering cabinet from your cure space? I think that would be a cheaper more cost effective solution. Although I do understand the desire to not have a carbon filtered fan running the whole way through flowering. So in short, I'm not sure, but those are my 2 cents. __________________ ۞

01-16-2010, 11:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	The carbon filter is on 24/7 ALWAYS no doubts! I'm a little unclear as to what you mean smaerd man- just to clarify, the problem is the hanging plants that have been cut but not yet dry enough to jar for the cure. My concern about the drying cab (or curing chamber if you like) teeing into the carbon filter (one way or another) is the flow of air may dry the plants too quickly. Maybe this could be overcome by damping the airflow with an adjustble baffle idk. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

01-16-2010, 12:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mydriasis Do Not Resuscitate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,317 Thanks: 840 Thanked 431 Times in 298 Posts	I misread your post a little haha. Perlite is good for adding humidity. You just put some in a strainer and pour water on it. It has a big surface area so it holds water and allows it to get whisked away into the air. Just don't use too much or it won't dry. Also concerning mold you could maybe add some h2o2(hydrogen peroxide) onto the perlite just for cautious matters. This MIGHT be a good way to keep a little humidity if you are running a fan the whole day. I'm going to try to think something up because yea while curing you don't want it stinky, or too moist, or too dry/much air-flow. A hygrometer might be a worthy investment if you don't have one already. It helps measure the relative humidity in a room/box/wherever it is. __________________ ۞

03-24-2010, 02:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	No, I'm no further on with this. Will probably end up getting an ioniser at some stage. Can't seem to find anything which has the right price/performance. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

03-23-2010, 10:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
TIG novice grower Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Valhalla, hall of the slain Posts: 68 Thanks: 7 Thanked 27 Times in 22 Posts	Were you able to come to a conclusion on this? I wrestle with odor as well during the cure. tig

03-25-2010, 10:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	One that looks like this I'm guessing. This is looking like the best bet. Although I have heard the corona discharge ones are cheaper to run than uv in the long run. Attached Images __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

03-26-2010, 05:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
Pharm Girl Looking for a Bone! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,204 Blog Entries: 13 Thanks: 2,554 Thanked 1,009 Times in 783 Posts	We use the 3000 plus model...it's been used in an 8x8x8 room without any odors what so ever.... Replacement bulb can vary depending on size...count on at least 125$ CAN. __________________ .....The Time has Come to 'Walk the Talk'.....~ ......A message for ALL from the Deer Tribe...~ It is a great journey — but you must do the walking and have the willingness to change and make the leap into the next level of human evolution. Become an inquisitive free thinking individual that takes responsibility for your life and the spiritual accountability to live life to the fullest. *Fuck the Monkeys*

03-26-2010, 08:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In My Fire Engine Posts: 7,134 Thanks: 2,040 Thanked 3,167 Times in 2,191 Posts	Ouch! __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys*

04-22-2010, 10:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
panheadfred aka panheadfred Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: at home? Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I have always used my 8'' big blue ionizer and vent it into the furnace plenium. even with the pungent aroma with the skunks the big blue has never let me down. the 8'' ones can be had forabout $350.00 american if you look real deep in the web. bigblueairproducts.c om

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