VERTICAL GROWING - THE CHEAP WAY TO GROW - Page 2

Bush Dr · 12-24-2010, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dandaweedman

Yeah, got them from Mota a long while back.
It's on the list to run in the near future.

Do you need the tds meter and all the stuff that normally goes along with hydro?

Lucky guy, they're the best Heri cross I've come across and I've tried lots

You probably do need a tds meter, but I've only got a pH pen ...... using run to waste means I just put the appropriate feed to the quantity of water added to the rez that day and job done

Yet another part of my keep it simple idea ...... I have enough trouble getting the pH right

BD

Dandaweedman · 12-24-2010, 01:06 PM

I would have a problem with doing it every day myself. Some days are too busy to even get in there.
That's why the simple method appeals t me.
I like the system and have seen the buckets before so we'll give it a shot when flower empties.

Can't get over the weights

Dandaweedman · 12-24-2010, 01:10 PM

I've got some more of Mota's Herijuana as well, 5 I think.
I tried Sannie seeds version of the Heri but out of 3 strains of his we tried we were 0 for 30 germed seeds.
Upon contact with Sannie he stated he would send extras the next time we ordered.
Like we are going to toss more money into his non-germing seeds

Bush Dr · 12-28-2010, 01:38 PM

Dirty Harry pics tomorrow ... maybe

Just cut these Karmatrain, my fingers are black with resin, I really must remember to use the gloves I went out and bought this morning for just this job

Lights off

Lights on

Left side

Centre

Right side

Side bud

Close Up

I love this strain, tight buds, beautiful aroma, superb indica high

BD

Dandaweedman · 12-29-2010, 05:15 AM

And can grow huge? LOL
Makes cleaning the hands worth while don't it?

Looks fantastic Bush Dr.

Roach · 12-29-2010, 08:23 AM

since growing anything horizontally is nearly impossible, just curious as to why the inventor calls it vertical growing. (which caught my eye).

seems like, only the position of the light is different from most grows.

vertical lighting, ( lights inside a plant ring, outside plant ring, above ((and below))... I've seen before.)

nice plants..

Dandaweedman · 12-29-2010, 09:18 PM

Talking about the orientation of the lamp (bulb to some) as being hung vertically.
Although there are some who grow upside down

Bush Dr · 01-04-2011, 10:14 AM

Dirty Harry cut at day 63, this side branch has super sticky, rock hard buds

This is not a good pic of the little plant, the flash has nearly burnt it out, you can see the big one in the background .... it was bigger than I thought when I actually cut it

Initial smoke testing the KT was good, super smooth, rich cedar resin smell turning to distinct hash smell/taste as the spliff burns down .... very potent, 3 tokes had even me wasted ....

Meanwhile this is cooking away in the background, Killer Chemdawg at 50 days

Pics of this one coming down in 10 - 14 days

BD

Jenna_Grows · 01-04-2011, 02:57 PM

Hey Doc...

I was looking around and have seen the plants behind a screen rather than the screen put around the lamp. Have you seen that? What do you think about that method.. I am thinking it could be good and bad...maybe not worrying about your plants growing around the light but they probably don't get the benefit of that light either?

Probably a silly question but..do you totally drain your reservior before refilling it? So, you'd add the nutes, run that cycle and then do a just straight water? Def's like mg handled by folier feed?

Beautiful buds you got there.

Bush Dr · 01-05-2011, 07:34 AM

Hi Jenna, I've seen screens all over the place, some without .... all I'm interested in is not burning my buds and this works perfectly

I only drain the rez when I put flush in and again when I switch to water

So on a daily basis if I top up with 10 litres, then 10 litres worth of feed goes in then pH adjusted ..... all nutes in the rez .... any extra Mg goes in the rez

The only thing I hand feed is the molasses, 3 hefty doses @ 2, 4 & 6 weeks flowering

Those buds have dried out the same size, much more amber trics than usual so should be even better smoke

The Dirty Harry is the producer, out does Critical Mass easily ....

BD

Dandaweedman · 01-05-2011, 11:08 AM

Good to hear about the Dirty Harry. Have to remember to ask you the final tally on that one after it's dried.
Beautiful plants.

I haven't heard much about Karmatrain before you said you were growing it. May have to look into that one.

Bush Dr · 01-06-2011, 02:54 AM

Karmatrain is clone only strain that circulates amongst a few growers in the UK

It was originally from Moonshineman and is Trainwreck x Buddha's Sister, Blue Buddha was a cross with Buddha's Sister, the Trainwreck takes it that bit further ..... it's the best Trainwreck I've smoked, including some Arcata Trainwreck I got in Humboldt County from an old grower friend last time I was there

As far as I know the seeds are long gone .... pity

Dandaweedman · 01-06-2011, 04:29 AM

That is a shame. Seems we lose more strains every year.
Moonshineman made Ultimate mooshine as well. Damn the clone onlys.

Does our eastern buddy still have that 80's NL?

Bush Dr · 01-07-2011, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dandaweedman

Does our eastern buddy still have that 80's NL?

I'm pretty sure he got it back from one of the people he let have a cut

**mothernature** · 01-07-2011, 03:12 AM

Having the bulb vertical is rather "old fashion". The scorch screen is something I would have doubted, as the screen does block some light. The fan placement is truly innovative.

Roll them all up together and you have something fantastic.

Those plants are amazing. Well done Bush Dr, well done indeed.

Any plans for CO2 enrichment?

Dandaweedman · 01-07-2011, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bush Dr

I'm pretty sure he got it back from one of the people he let have a cut

That was a good smoke.

Bush Dr · 01-07-2011, 01:58 PM

It was indeed a very good smoke, it stood alongside the best today has to offer, it would be a shame if it was to disappear

Mothernature ... the system relies too heavily on a fast through put of air to allow switching the fans off for CO2 to be of any use

BTW Final weight for the Karmatrain is 22&1/4oz manicured bud from 4 plants, one topped 7, the smallest was 4+

Dandaweedman · 01-07-2011, 02:46 PM

Maybe I can convince him to send it again one day

Those are some NICE weights Bushdr, congrats on another very fine harvest

Nice pictures in your galleries as well.

You grow in a 4' x 4' tent right? How do you get around to the back if you have issues?
Like pests, bugs and emergency water cleanup if need be?

Bush Dr · 01-08-2011, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dandaweedman

Those are some NICE weights Bushdr, congrats on another very fine harvest

Nice pictures in your galleries as well.

You grow in a 4' x 4' tent right? How do you get around to the back if you have issues?
Like pests, bugs and emergency water cleanup if need be?

Thanks Dan ..... I was pleased given the freezing weather here

As far as getting to the back plants is concerned for the first few weeks, up to 28 days it's not too bad after that, it's either with great difficulty or I just can't do it as the front plants are in the way .... if needs be I can remove the cage, but I use Mite Rid now and so far it's done the trick

Mite Rid comes from Oz but they have a US outlet @ Mite-Rid For the prevention and eradication of Spider Mites

BD

Dandaweedman · 01-08-2011, 06:52 AM

Thanks, that was one of the worries I had, how to ge to the other end.
nother monthish

12-24-2010, 01:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,407 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	I would have a problem with doing it every day myself. Some days are too busy to even get in there. That's why the simple method appeals t me. I like the system and have seen the buckets before so we'll give it a shot when flower empties. Can't get over the weights __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

12-24-2010, 01:10 PM	#23 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,407 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	I've got some more of Mota's Herijuana as well, 5 I think. I tried Sannie seeds version of the Heri but out of 3 strains of his we tried we were 0 for 30 germed seeds. Upon contact with Sannie he stated he would send extras the next time we ordered. Like we are going to toss more money into his non-germing seeds __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

12-28-2010, 01:38 PM	#24 (permalink)
Bush Dr YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 24 Thanks: 2 Thanked 23 Times in 10 Posts	Dirty Harry pics tomorrow ... maybe Just cut these Karmatrain, my fingers are black with resin, I really must remember to use the gloves I went out and bought this morning for just this job Lights off Lights on Left side Centre Right side Side bud Close Up I love this strain, tight buds, beautiful aroma, superb indica high BD __________________ This ain't no ordinary herb I'm smoking - Fantan Mojah Sometimes you need a little spice in your life

12-29-2010, 05:15 AM	#25 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,407 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	And can grow huge? LOL Makes cleaning the hands worth while don't it? Looks fantastic Bush Dr. __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

12-29-2010, 08:23 AM	#26 (permalink)
Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,143 Thanks: 2,362 Thanked 1,974 Times in 1,500 Posts	since growing anything horizontally is nearly impossible, just curious as to why the inventor calls it vertical growing. (which caught my eye). seems like, only the position of the light is different from most grows. vertical lighting, ( lights inside a plant ring, outside plant ring, above ((and below))... I've seen before.) nice plants.. __________________ לזיין את הקופים Last edited by Roach; 12-29-2010 at 08:30 AM.

12-29-2010, 09:18 PM	#27 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,407 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	Talking about the orientation of the lamp (bulb to some) as being hung vertically. Although there are some who grow upside down __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

01-04-2011, 10:14 AM	#28 (permalink)
Bush Dr YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 24 Thanks: 2 Thanked 23 Times in 10 Posts	Dirty Harry cut at day 63, this side branch has super sticky, rock hard buds This is not a good pic of the little plant, the flash has nearly burnt it out, you can see the big one in the background .... it was bigger than I thought when I actually cut it Initial smoke testing the KT was good, super smooth, rich cedar resin smell turning to distinct hash smell/taste as the spliff burns down .... very potent, 3 tokes had even me wasted .... Meanwhile this is cooking away in the background, Killer Chemdawg at 50 days Pics of this one coming down in 10 - 14 days BD __________________ This ain't no ordinary herb I'm smoking - Fantan Mojah Sometimes you need a little spice in your life

01-04-2011, 02:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
Jenna_Grows Old School Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 946 Thanks: 311 Thanked 315 Times in 191 Posts	Hey Doc... I was looking around and have seen the plants behind a screen rather than the screen put around the lamp. Have you seen that? What do you think about that method.. I am thinking it could be good and bad...maybe not worrying about your plants growing around the light but they probably don't get the benefit of that light either? Probably a silly question but..do you totally drain your reservior before refilling it? So, you'd add the nutes, run that cycle and then do a just straight water? Def's like mg handled by folier feed? Beautiful buds you got there.

01-05-2011, 07:34 AM	#30 (permalink)
Bush Dr YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 24 Thanks: 2 Thanked 23 Times in 10 Posts	Hi Jenna, I've seen screens all over the place, some without .... all I'm interested in is not burning my buds and this works perfectly I only drain the rez when I put flush in and again when I switch to water So on a daily basis if I top up with 10 litres, then 10 litres worth of feed goes in then pH adjusted ..... all nutes in the rez .... any extra Mg goes in the rez The only thing I hand feed is the molasses, 3 hefty doses @ 2, 4 & 6 weeks flowering Those buds have dried out the same size, much more amber trics than usual so should be even better smoke The Dirty Harry is the producer, out does Critical Mass easily .... BD __________________ This ain't no ordinary herb I'm smoking - Fantan Mojah Sometimes you need a little spice in your life

01-05-2011, 11:08 AM	#31 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,407 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	Good to hear about the Dirty Harry. Have to remember to ask you the final tally on that one after it's dried. Beautiful plants. I haven't heard much about Karmatrain before you said you were growing it. May have to look into that one. __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

01-06-2011, 02:54 AM	#32 (permalink)
Bush Dr YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 24 Thanks: 2 Thanked 23 Times in 10 Posts	Karmatrain is clone only strain that circulates amongst a few growers in the UK It was originally from Moonshineman and is Trainwreck x Buddha's Sister, Blue Buddha was a cross with Buddha's Sister, the Trainwreck takes it that bit further ..... it's the best Trainwreck I've smoked, including some Arcata Trainwreck I got in Humboldt County from an old grower friend last time I was there As far as I know the seeds are long gone .... pity __________________ This ain't no ordinary herb I'm smoking - Fantan Mojah Sometimes you need a little spice in your life

01-06-2011, 04:29 AM	#33 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,407 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	That is a shame. Seems we lose more strains every year. Moonshineman made Ultimate mooshine as well. Damn the clone onlys. Does our eastern buddy still have that 80's NL? __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

01-07-2011, 03:12 AM	#35 (permalink)
mothernature ancientbongmaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,231 Thanks: 1,200 Thanked 808 Times in 487 Posts	Having the bulb vertical is rather "old fashion". The scorch screen is something I would have doubted, as the screen does block some light. The fan placement is truly innovative. Roll them all up together and you have something fantastic. Those plants are amazing. Well done Bush Dr, well done indeed. Any plans for CO2 enrichment?

01-07-2011, 01:58 PM	#37 (permalink)
Bush Dr YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 24 Thanks: 2 Thanked 23 Times in 10 Posts	It was indeed a very good smoke, it stood alongside the best today has to offer, it would be a shame if it was to disappear Mothernature ... the system relies too heavily on a fast through put of air to allow switching the fans off for CO2 to be of any use BTW Final weight for the Karmatrain is 22&1/4oz manicured bud from 4 plants, one topped 7, the smallest was 4+ __________________ This ain't no ordinary herb I'm smoking - Fantan Mojah Sometimes you need a little spice in your life Last edited by Bush Dr; 01-07-2011 at 02:19 PM.

01-07-2011, 02:46 PM	#38 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,407 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	Maybe I can convince him to send it again one day Those are some NICE weights Bushdr, congrats on another very fine harvest Nice pictures in your galleries as well. You grow in a 4' x 4' tent right? How do you get around to the back if you have issues? Like pests, bugs and emergency water cleanup if need be? __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

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01-08-2011, 06:52 AM	#40 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,407 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	Thanks, that was one of the worries I had, how to ge to the other end. nother monthish __________________ Hanging in the Cabana Last edited by Dandaweedman; 01-08-2011 at 06:54 AM. Reason: spelling as per usual

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