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Old 02-06-2012, 10:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up BT for caterpillar control!




Anyone else use BT for caterpillars? Tried it once a couple years back, been swearing by it ever since.

Since I flower outdoors, I tend to get a lot of pests, but the 'pillars are by far the worst. I remember burping a jar of curing nugs and a moth flying out .

This stuff does its job within a day or two. I always sprayed the plants all around it and i'd be set.

The bacteria ends up creating a culture growing naturally on the plant, meaning you only have to spray a couple times unless it rains. 'Pillars eat the leaves with bacteria on em and die. Its totally safe and legal for use on fruits, even the day before harvest.

on an unrelated note, does anyone else have a problem spelling caterpillars? i end up wanting to spell it catapiller >.>
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I wonder if that stuff would work for the wormies we had in our flower beds and garden last season? Is it for general anti-caterpillarness, cuz that would work if it was.
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SaJ why don't you want worms in your garden?
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The ones in the flowers tended to eat the pretty stuff first. So that sucked. And the ones in the 'maters and zucchini ate holes in things. These are two very different worm types. Definitely caterpillars in the flowers, I seen't 'em.
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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omg...yer not using that 'stuff on your garden...are u??

with all the organic alternatives available...there's threads here at yahooka

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i'm not convinced...i use rhubarb leaf and/or chili/red pepper
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I wonder if that stuff would work for the wormies we had in our flower beds and garden last season? Is it for general anti-caterpillarness, cuz that would work if it was.
Yeah it is, theres a term for it, something-cide.

The fucking caterpillars always went straight for the pistols lol.

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omg...yer not using that 'stuff on your garden...are u??

with all the organic alternatives available...there's threads here at yahooka

i'm not convinced...i use rhubarb leaf and/or chili/red pepper
its 100% organic, you're simply introducing a bacteria that is innert to humans-good luck growing a plant thats bacteria free. I stop spraying about a week before harvest. This stuff has literally saved me ounces.
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BT is safe for humans even right up to harvest as far as I'm aware.

It is good for getting rid of fungus gnats.

It is also harmless to bees and most beneficial insects.
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Yea I use it for figs knats and swear by it. And most organic methods I tried where a waist of time
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I've never had problems with caterpillars. What do they do to plants?
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How is it applied? Spray directly on the plant?
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so many other ways to deter bugs/insects/caterpillars....we don;t use dat shit!! lol
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my boss is an agricultural consultant for a living (he makes high six figures every couple months, easy) and has a 4 acre hobby farm on the island i live on and i've been his farm hand for 5 years

we don't use any pesticides or any chemicals on our shit, they're super hardcore organic

but we have started using BT these last few years after tent caterpillars fucked over like 50% of 300 of our dwarf fruit trees.
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i want a 4 acre hobby farm on an island in canada with mikey as my farmhand.....




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so many other ways to deter bugs/insects/caterpillars....we don;t use dat shit!! lol
You wouldn't use beneficial bacteria? Why not?
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How is it applied? Spray directly on the plant?
Mixed with water and sprayed directly on, yeah. Easy as hell, and Ive had the same bottle for like 5 years.


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so many other ways to deter bugs/insects/caterpillars....we don;t use dat shit!! lol
I don't understand why you are scared of BT...

Its the equivalent of introducing ladybugs to get rid of aphids. Youre introducing a totally organic, completely safe bacteria that has been around as long as caterpillars.

I grew totally organic, and trust me, Neem doesn't come close to BT for caterpillars. BT was safe, organic, and really really really effective. Just because it came from a bottle doesn't make it unsafe, or not organic.
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very intresting, im kinda on the fence about the use of bt, its had a history of use from the 20's and i my self recently began to use serenade (bacilis something) for my powdery mold. However now that i think about it a little more, the great potential of rapid mutation of these bacteria seems pretty clear seeing as where making hundreds of gallons and just spraying um out wilynilly in the environment.

-on the topic of caterpillar suppression i go with neem not only on the leaf surface but also in the soil in the form of neem cake fertilizer, its 2-4-6 and i run mostly that as my vegging fert and it makes amazing lush plants that bugs just don't bother! Rarely if ever do i find bugs in my area when i use that and if i do its a withered sun bleached shell, ill try to find one of the "neem mummies" for a pic if i can. that stuff is the shit, i know because i cant find a source for it now and the creatures are moving in!!

-also neem not only kills bugs but it also improves plant health:P
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The bacteria wouldn't be the thing that mutated since the BT would be adding selective pressure against the caterpillars. Indeed, if anything was to mutate, it'd be the caterpillars gaining BT resistance.

Spraying BT isn't like overusing anti biotics. It's more like you're introducing a parasite to its victim, or a predator to its prey.
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BT is the shit. My roommate swore by it when he was growing.

Also, lol rhubarb leaves? C'mon Pharm Girl, good lord.
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now i know the caterpillars are guaranteed to mutate overtime to bt because thats the target of the spray. however now i may be very wrong but what im talking about is that producing bt in such high quantities and spraying it all over diverse landscapes is just begging for some fucked up detrimental mutation to arise.
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