BongBusta1313

Hey everybody, I hear a lot of people around here say that THC isn't water soluble but the truth is...it is. THC is water soluble but we cannot get a high from drinking tea or whatnot because it's not attached to anything our bloodstream takes in. With milk, the THC is bonded to the calcium and then absorbed into the blood stream and we get high. Same goes with butter or oil. If THC wasn't water soluble, we wouldn't be able to make hash using the bubble bag method, which is the cleanest, most potent way to make hash. Trippin balls...

Trife

[quote]Originally posted by BongBusta1313:
Hey everybody, I hear a lot of people around here say that THC isn't water soluble but the truth is...it is. THC is water soluble but we cannot get a high from drinking tea or whatnot because it's not attached to anything our bloodstream takes in. With milk, the THC is bonded to the calcium and then absorbed into the blood stream and we get high. Same goes with butter or oil. If THC wasn't water soluble, we wouldn't be able to make hash using the bubble bag method, which is the cleanest, most potent way to make hash. Trippin balls...

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Well good for you.

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steppdogg

um no, its not

lorez

you've got things completely flipped around
the ONLY reason bubblebags work is because the THC does NOT disolve in the water.
If THC was water-soluable, it would dissolve in the water and pass straight *through* the filter, rathter than be colleced *by* the filter.

THC does not "bond" to the calcium in milk, it is disolved by the fat content. Butter and oil work on the same principal, neither contain ammounts of calcium similar to milk.

Please, do not spread missinformation about something you have such limited knowlege about. If THC were water-soluable, you'd pass a piss test if you quit for 3 days (or even less) just like ppl who do coke/heroin/mdma/meth... All are water soluable and are disposed of quickly by the body. THC, however, is stored in the fat cells of the body (because its fat soluable), thats why it can take 30 days for it to be eliminated from your system.

Whats next, your going to tell us that bran fiber is absorbed into the bloodstream?

-lorez

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DaddyX

actually, THC is absorbed by water, thats the reason why water filtration pipes don't work very well. Some of the THC is absorbed into the water making the marijuana less potent, therefore requiring you to smoke more, to acheive the same effects.

and please, your mr. know-it-all act is pretty fuckin lame.

lorez

its not actually absorbed by the water in the bong, its "trapped" between the water molecules, or at least thats the theory stated in the NORML waterpipe efficiency study

"and please, your mr. know-it-all act is pretty fuckin lame"
sorry, i tend to get upset when people try and spread missinformation
oh well, dont listen to me, listen to the newbie instead

-lorez

Bald Nob

Legal lies

Water filtration pipes don't work very well? You can sit their smoking your bowls and getting buzzed but give me a 2 foot glass and I'll get stoned off my ass instead.

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lorez

I love a good bong hit

Here's the study I was blabbing about:
The California NORML/MAPS Smoking Device Study

My personal view is that while bongs may not be the most cost-effective way to smoke pot, the larger hits they deliver is a great way to get a higher blood plama level of the drug. Simply put, you get more stoned but for a shorter period of time. The opposite is true for eating cannabis, it takes longer to absorb into the bloodstream so you feel the effects longer.

The same holds true for most drugs. Freebase cocaine is said to give a greater rush than snorting it because it reaches the bloodstream faster. Injecting it directly into the vein is the quickest route and results in the highest drug concentrations in the blood.
Please note, I do not use cocaine, nor condone its use, the above was mearly an example. My family has a long history of substance abuse and my father lost a kidney due to damage from excessive cocaine use. I'll never touch the white devil myself

The above holds true for plants such as salvia as well. Salvia needs to be smoked quickly for the effects to be noticed which is why people generally use it in bongs rather than rolling it into a "joint"

I apologize if these comments are veiwed in a "know it all" way, I'm only attempting to bring another opinion to the discussion

-lorez

Bald Nob

Kenny Bus

i'm outta papers. my bong gets me high and so does my cannabutter. your saying if i let weed soak in water then drink it with a box of crispy cremes i should get high? i dont think its water soluble

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DaddyX

sorry for getting shitty with you lorez
my bad

londonboy

Lorez, you seem to know what your talking about, so, if you made warm milk with crushed bud in it, would it get you high, due to the fat content in milk??
PS Bran fibre is absorbed and sent directly to the brain!!

Captain Cannabis

[quote]Originally posted by DaddyX:
actually, THC is absorbed by water, thats the reason why water filtration pipes don't work very well. Some of the THC is absorbed into the water making the marijuana less potent, therefore requiring you to smoke more, to acheive the same effects.

and please, your mr. know-it-all act is pretty fuckin lame.

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If that were true bong water would get you blown.

Lorez is just too smart for his own good

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HippieNonsense (FGS)

thc is water soluble just not very much. i think i explained this somewhere just like lorez did above.

erik_s

Hey,

It seems to me that lorez is pretty dead on. I think there is some confusion occuring between solutions and emulsions. Most people are familiar with the concept of a solution (such as sugar water). An emulsion, however, although just as common, is a bit more misterious. Two liquids that are not soluble in each other can be mixed for a shot period of time (think oil and vinigar dressing), this is called an emultion.

To quote someone who knows more than me:

"Chemically, emulsions are colloids, heterogeneous mixtures composed of tiny particles suspended in another immiscible (unmixable) material. These particles are larger than molecules, but less than one one-thousandth of a millimeter (.001mm). Small particles like this do not settle out and will pass right through filter paper. The particles in a colloid can be solid, liquid or bubbles of gas. The medium that they are suspended in can be a solid, liquid or gas (although gas colloids cannot be suspended in gas). "


If one of the liquid contains a "emulsifier", the mixure can be stabalized: the emultion can be more concentrated and will not seperate. For example, milk (mostly water) contains about 4% fat (not water soluble) but also contains the emulsifier lecithin, hence under "normal" conditions the fat dosn't seperate out.

End results:
* THC is not water soluable
* A THC emultion can be created
(the "trapped" effect)
* Pure water creates relativly pore emultions,
so don't drink your bong water


Anyway, I hope that all right. Just wanted to put some terminology into the discussion and explain some seemingly contradictery observations.

Ornithopter_war

I'm tired of all you little punks thinking you know somthing. Guess what? You don't know shit about shit, it's like you never thought to google somthing before opening your mouths and making yourselves look like complete fucking idiots. First of all. THC is NOT water soluble. I'll tell you what it's soluble in though....acetone, ethanol and even isopropyl. THC ALSO bonds very well and sticks very well to SATURATED FATS. THAT is why it words so well in milk, not for some other unknown unforeseen reason. In MY opinion the best way to cook with it, is to make butter. The best way to smoke it is to extract it Via butane extraction methods ( if you're a newb) Or other various extraction methods where the end result is pretty much Honey Oil. Take this information to heart. It'll help you get high. Cheers.

clive

dude stop getting angry over something that happened 5 years ago.

Ornithopter_war

No length of time erases ignorance.

eldizle

wow, hah

budbasher

I'm with the angry dude, one of the nicest ways to spend a lazy day is to place half an ounce of good bud in a pan of milk, then simmer for 20 mins or until milk has turned a nice shade of green, then personally I put a couple of spoons of instant coffee same of sugar pour that into 2 mugs(through a filter), and hey-presto 1 very stoned afternoon.

But on the other hand I quite like to blend some bud then put 1 heaped dessert spoon in a glass fill with water , stir and drink
(now that's what I call emulsification).
(well sort of)

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Mafoo

someone just boil a nug already and tell us if it gets you high. the oil n such must go out of the plant when boiled in water, where would it go?

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