Chicken Manure/Soil Ratio

Gangabiss · 01-30-2004, 02:19 PM

My next crop are all going to be clones from swt4 + skunk No.1 and I will be experimenting a bit with my soil mix.

I was thinking of using a mix of: 20% dried chicken manure pellets/40% perlite/40%potting soil. Is this too much chicken shit to be adding?

I would be potting up from 1L-2L-5L and i will be budding them the day I repot them into their 5L so that there will be plenty of growth room for the roots when the plants stretch.
Does anyone know if this will be enough nutrient to take my plant through veg and flowering without any extra nutes?
(I've also got earth juice nutes but I'd rather not have to go to the trouble of ferting every few days)

Any help greatly appreciated
BTW I'm growing indoors under 400w hps and will be flowering at about 10 inches.

Gangabiss · 01-30-2004, 05:59 PM

Lots of helpful hints thanks Kosh!

I've managed to find a source of worm castings so I think I'll be using them instead as I can get them alot cheaper and I've read that they're the mutts nuts for your plants.
Would 30% worm castings in my 5L pots be alright, or is this too much?

I know worm castings have plenty of N for the growth but will they have enough P to get me through the budding process? Or do you think I'll have to add some flowering nutes later on?

I think I'll take your advice and repot them 2-3 weeks into budding just to make sure they don't get rootbound or show deficiencies near harvest time. And I don't think I'll bother with any more additives for my soil mix, I'm just gonna keep it simple at first.

Thanks again for the tips

Free Tha Herb!

Gangabiss · 01-31-2004, 10:26 AM

I've done some research on worm castings and have come to the conclusion that they shouldn't burn my plants, so I'll be using a mix of:

60% perlite/vermiculite
+
30% worm castings
10% chicken manure pellets
or
40% worm castings

Would you recommend mixing in some EarthJuice Bloom with the soil mix before repotting? Or will the worm and chicken shit be enough P for flowering?

phat pharmer · 01-31-2004, 01:24 PM

sureshot, can i use B&Q Organic Peat Free Compost, it says its made from organic by-products of the forestry and farming industries, it smells good

I plan on potting my 3 week old seedlings into a mixture of the organic compost, John Innes compost and some vermiculite and perlite....
Im nort sure when too feed first

, i was planning too give them a low EJ grow feed in a bout 2/3 weeks...any advice welcome

laters

Gangabiss · 01-31-2004, 02:09 PM

Don't you think it'd be better to start a new thread seeing as that's on a different subject?

BTW I'm currently using the same medium as what you're talking about. I think you're on about the Organic Composted Bark you get in 20 litre bags. I've repotted recently using this and John Innes cutting compost (or summat) mixed together 50/50and I'm having no problems so far. It's got good airation so you shouldn't have to add that much perlite.

Hope this helps you out.

Peace

Gangabiss · 01-31-2004, 07:49 PM

Yes I think I'll be trying out different ratios of perlite and potting mix. And also different amounts of worm castings. I'm just gonna use that mix ratio as a guideline for my experiments.

I'll let you all know my results and which works best.
Laterz

huckleberry · 01-31-2004, 08:41 PM

wouldn't hurt to add some hydrated lime,about a cup,to each of your mixes,this will help stabilize your soil................ .

phat pharmer · 02-01-2004, 02:40 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gangabiss
[B]Don't you think it'd be better to start a new thread seeing as that's on a different subject?

@ GANGABISS listen mate i didnt realise you had suddenly become a moderator....im sorry if your that SAD that it has managed too piss you off...

get a fuckin life and stop moaning......jeeeeee eessuuuuussss !!!

Gangabiss · 02-01-2004, 08:43 AM

I can't be arsed, this is fucking stupid. I was going to write a load of shite back to you but what's the point?

I aint had any smoke today so maybe I am a bit touchy.

Take it eazy

Sureshot · 02-01-2004, 06:31 PM

Chill out guys, seriously, it's not Free For All in here!

I've used the exact same mix as that Gangabiss, 60/30/10. It's not a usual but a friend swears by it and so I tried it. Can't say I like it as I can't compost the root ball afterwards so easily, but that's a personal thing. Plants did great. I swear by 50 (any dark) soil, 20 perlite, 20 worm castings, 10 pertinent (veg or flower) guano fert mix. The ratio varies a little with a couple of keepers because they like extra well drained (or in one case not so well draining) soil. I've recently been experimenting with sand instead of perlite as perlite has a habit of 'floating' in any soil/soiless mix.

Most shop brand soils are fine Phat, but I'm a Homebase man myself!!

I'm sad, seriously, too much fucking DIY.

SS

phat pharmer · 02-02-2004, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Most shop brand soils are fine Phat, but I'm a Homebase man myself!!

I'm sad, seriously, too much fucking DIY.

SS [/B]

@ SURESHOT LOL do you have a loyalty card as well ???

Sureshot · 02-02-2004, 05:16 AM

^ I have.

God I suck.

SS

01-30-2004, 02:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gangabiss 24/7 Toker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: [ENTER HERE] Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Chicken Manure/Soil Ratio My next crop are all going to be clones from swt4 + skunk No.1 and I will be experimenting a bit with my soil mix. I was thinking of using a mix of: 20% dried chicken manure pellets/40% perlite/40%potting soil. Is this too much chicken shit to be adding? I would be potting up from 1L-2L-5L and i will be budding them the day I repot them into their 5L so that there will be plenty of growth room for the roots when the plants stretch. Does anyone know if this will be enough nutrient to take my plant through veg and flowering without any extra nutes? (I've also got earth juice nutes but I'd rather not have to go to the trouble of ferting every few days) Any help greatly appreciated BTW I'm growing indoors under 400w hps and will be flowering at about 10 inches. __________________ GroWell.co.uk SeedsDirect

01-30-2004, 05:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Gangabiss 24/7 Toker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: [ENTER HERE] Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lots of helpful hints thanks Kosh! I've managed to find a source of worm castings so I think I'll be using them instead as I can get them alot cheaper and I've read that they're the mutts nuts for your plants. Would 30% worm castings in my 5L pots be alright, or is this too much? I know worm castings have plenty of N for the growth but will they have enough P to get me through the budding process? Or do you think I'll have to add some flowering nutes later on? I think I'll take your advice and repot them 2-3 weeks into budding just to make sure they don't get rootbound or show deficiencies near harvest time. And I don't think I'll bother with any more additives for my soil mix, I'm just gonna keep it simple at first. Thanks again for the tips Free Tha Herb! __________________ GroWell.co.uk SeedsDirect

01-31-2004, 10:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
Gangabiss 24/7 Toker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: [ENTER HERE] Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've done some research on worm castings and have come to the conclusion that they shouldn't burn my plants, so I'll be using a mix of: 60% perlite/vermiculite + 30% worm castings 10% chicken manure pellets or 40% worm castings Would you recommend mixing in some EarthJuice Bloom with the soil mix before repotting? Or will the worm and chicken shit be enough P for flowering? __________________ GroWell.co.uk SeedsDirect

01-31-2004, 01:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
phat pharmer Earache My Eye Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: two stops short of Dagenham Posts: 1,047 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	sureshot, can i use B&Q Organic Peat Free Compost, it says its made from organic by-products of the forestry and farming industries, it smells good I plan on potting my 3 week old seedlings into a mixture of the organic compost, John Innes compost and some vermiculite and perlite.... Im nort sure when too feed first , i was planning too give them a low EJ grow feed in a bout 2/3 weeks...any advice welcome laters __________________ VOTE Phat

01-31-2004, 02:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gangabiss 24/7 Toker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: [ENTER HERE] Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don't you think it'd be better to start a new thread seeing as that's on a different subject? BTW I'm currently using the same medium as what you're talking about. I think you're on about the Organic Composted Bark you get in 20 litre bags. I've repotted recently using this and John Innes cutting compost (or summat) mixed together 50/50and I'm having no problems so far. It's got good airation so you shouldn't have to add that much perlite. Hope this helps you out. Peace __________________ GroWell.co.uk SeedsDirect

01-31-2004, 07:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gangabiss 24/7 Toker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: [ENTER HERE] Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes I think I'll be trying out different ratios of perlite and potting mix. And also different amounts of worm castings. I'm just gonna use that mix ratio as a guideline for my experiments. I'll let you all know my results and which works best. Laterz __________________ GroWell.co.uk SeedsDirect

01-31-2004, 08:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
huckleberry Old School Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 309 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	wouldn't hurt to add some hydrated lime,about a cup,to each of your mixes,this will help stabilize your soil................ .

02-01-2004, 02:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
phat pharmer Earache My Eye Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: two stops short of Dagenham Posts: 1,047 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gangabiss [B]Don't you think it'd be better to start a new thread seeing as that's on a different subject? @ GANGABISS listen mate i didnt realise you had suddenly become a moderator....im sorry if your that SAD that it has managed too piss you off... get a fuckin life and stop moaning......jeeeeee eessuuuuussss !!! __________________ VOTE Phat

02-01-2004, 08:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
Gangabiss 24/7 Toker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: [ENTER HERE] Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can't be arsed, this is fucking stupid. I was going to write a load of shite back to you but what's the point? I aint had any smoke today so maybe I am a bit touchy. Take it eazy __________________ GroWell.co.uk SeedsDirect

02-01-2004, 06:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sureshot Can't-Get-Right Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Surrounded by the unimaginative Posts: 6,444 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 16 Posts	Chill out guys, seriously, it's not Free For All in here! I've used the exact same mix as that Gangabiss, 60/30/10. It's not a usual but a friend swears by it and so I tried it. Can't say I like it as I can't compost the root ball afterwards so easily, but that's a personal thing. Plants did great. I swear by 50 (any dark) soil, 20 perlite, 20 worm castings, 10 pertinent (veg or flower) guano fert mix. The ratio varies a little with a couple of keepers because they like extra well drained (or in one case not so well draining) soil. I've recently been experimenting with sand instead of perlite as perlite has a habit of 'floating' in any soil/soiless mix. Most shop brand soils are fine Phat, but I'm a Homebase man myself!! I'm sad, seriously, too much fucking DIY. SS __________________ - The information in the above post is conjecture and the poster a figment of your imagination. - All images are computer generated or were taken in nations with forward thinking laws. o GrowFAQ o Add A Canna Grow Tip o Other Highs FAQ o Inquiring Minds FAQ o

02-02-2004, 05:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
Sureshot Can't-Get-Right Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Surrounded by the unimaginative Posts: 6,444 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 16 Posts	^ I have. God I suck. SS __________________ - The information in the above post is conjecture and the poster a figment of your imagination. - All images are computer generated or were taken in nations with forward thinking laws. o GrowFAQ o Add A Canna Grow Tip o Other Highs FAQ o Inquiring Minds FAQ o

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