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Old 01-29-2005, 11:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The grow box

This is what a friend of mine has set up, he has never grown before and I havn't been to his house to see this for myself yet, it looks like it has some potential, the lights are two 40 watt floressent tubes. and the box is 8 square feet and about 2.5 feet high. I've never grown indoors before so I need some help helping him. How could we incorpote a fan in there and at what height shuold floweirng be initiated for th bet light penetration. Also I'mpretyt sure he's gonna need an hps or something with more power. Also whats the best kind of paint to paint the box with mylar or something?
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He doesnt necessarily need HPS.

He could use it, but he wouldnt even need it right away so he shouldnt be super concerned.

I would definately add at least one more flourescent light rack, try to diversify the spectrum somewhat to please the plants in more than one way.
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Ya I know that fluorescent's are good for clones and seedlings.. Do you think you could grow decent bud with 160 watts of floro's? I also have some killer genetics comin in the mail.


edit: the lights that are being used are cool white fluorescent , if we were to get one of a different spectrum which ones would be best?
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thats what I need for an 18/6 to root clones...
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wel the box sits in a room that is in complete darkness so a lid won't be neccesary.

its a pretty big room with nothing else in it so theres lots of air. I was thinking the fan would be used mroe for strenghtening the stems rather then for air exchange.

This weekend the paint is going on the box. The floros should be fine and the onty reaosn an hps won't be being used is beacuse of the price, about how much would it cost for an hps lamp say 250 watts, and is it completely necesary to have a ballast or are there kinds were you can just screw it into a special lamp fixture, again I've never grown indoors so the lighitng thing is new to me.


Now onto pots The box height is approximatly 2 1/2 fett and is 4'2'' feet long and 2 feet wide.

What woudl be the most efficiewnt number of plant to put in here and what size pot would be good, I don't want them to get root bound but of there too big I fear the might wanna grow too big.

Thanks for your help and I look forward to when the green moves in.
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You need to think Lumens per Watt too. Its just an efficiency thing.
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Well I put a seed that I got from some blueberry bud and it germinated and it sprouted a large root tip in about 36 hours. I can't find my other ones that I stahed in the fridge

I put it in a jiffy pod and am waiting for a seedling to sprout and will deliver it to the grow room on saturday. I am still awaiting other for other seeds to arrive in the mail.

A soil mixture if 30% vermiculit 67% compost and 3% bone meal has been mixed, will this be Adequate? or should more of one ingredient be added or others included.
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Seeds? Did you mention seeds?

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Well I put a seed that I got from some blueberry bud and it germinated and it sprouted a large root tip in about 36 hours. I can't find my other ones that I stahed in the fridge
Mmmmm Blueeeberrrry

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I put it in a jiffy pod and am waiting for a seedling to sprout and will deliver it to the grow room on saturday. I am still awaiting other for other seeds to arrive in the mail.
What strains have you chosen and why BC Budman?

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I would add some perlite just to make it a bit free-er draining, but that's me, if you have had luck with that mixture stick with it.
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Mmmmm Blueeeberrrry
I hope it turns out well.

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What strains have you chosen and why BC Budman?
well the Cannabis Pro christmas seed give away resulty were delyed and I PM'ed him to see when he would announce the results and because noone else claimed them he's giving them to me
I got white widdow, white passion, widdowrella and an indoor mix. Thanks alot Cannabis pro I appreciate that!
I would like to do an outdoor grow this year and those seeds are only really suitable for indoor so I'm up for a trade.
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I would add some perlite just to make it a bit free-er draining, but that's me, if you have had luck with that mixture stick with it.
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well I've never tried ythat before a friend of mine mixed it up and asked me how it sounded and I didn't really know so I thought I'd ask around. last time I used a mixture of potting soil and some compost.
also what are some good organic ferts i could use? I would like to use advanced nutrients but there really expensive so I was thining fox farm or something.
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Ohhh Sureshot?

LOL I am not very organic, more like half way there, but I will be asking you for advice when it is time.

Wish I could help you out with some sativas as those would be sweet to have in the garden.

Maybe an entity will come out of the woodwork with some nice pure landrace for ya.
Congrats on winning that loverly bundle... bugger

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you can get some cheap HPS/MH lights here http://www.e-conolight.com/Product/EFamily.asp
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you can get some cheap HPS/MH lights here http://www.e-conolight.com/Product/EFamily.asp
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Organic fert, if you want complete liquid pre mixed Age Old is very nice. A lot of people use Bio-Grow and Bio-Bloom but I prefer Age Old. Grow and Bloom are very very reliable, need some very minor additions to be perfect but you could happily just run with those two.
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Organic fert, if you want complete liquid pre mixed Age Old is very nice. A lot of people use Bio-Grow and Bio-Bloom but I prefer Age Old. Grow and Bloom are very very reliable, need some very minor additions to be perfect but you could happily just run with those two.
Can I get this product here in the colonies?
I have been thinking of going orgasmic, some have been saying the taste is better.

I think any orgasmic is better than none.

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Update

Here we have the painted grow box with the light overtop and a seedlign underneath
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Here we have the painted grow box with the light overtop and a seedlign underneath
B+ for ingenuity.
A few more lights spanning the top and a SOG or a smartly done LST would be perfect.

Looks good bud

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And the little baby, day 5 and day 6 after being droped into the glass of water (I might be off by one day)

Another Floro was purchased so now there is 160 watts in 20 cubic feet. sufficient?
(Only one is on right now because only one tiny plant is in there)

Now because flourescents are being used, If we coudl get the plants to form an even canopy that would be best. What method would be the best? I was thinking scog or just topping it. Lst comes to mind but I think its a bit too advanced for a first grow.
Some soil was mixed uo consisting of
30% vermiculit
67% compost and
3% bone meal
is this good?
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I still say LST

Just go by the FAQ that's what I did.
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I'll look through the FAQ's but it still seems complicated. I like the idea of scrog bettter. I need to do some research. Heres another pic, its time to transplant now, there as you can see the tap root has come out.
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I'll look through the FAQ's but it still seems complicated. I like the idea of scrog bettter. I need to do some research. Heres another pic, its time to transplant now, there as you can see the tap root has come out.

IMO doing LST is far easier than SCROG
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