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Old 03-16-2005, 09:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mycorrhiza

Well, I went out and bought some o this elixer... cept it is in powder form.
No real instructions except for adding when newly sowing da seed.

Can I make a tea and feed like usual?

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Old 03-16-2005, 11:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Mix with water and feed each plant 1/2 cup by poking holes in the soil and pulling up some of the soil with your finger. Cover with the soil after treating. Shake your container before each treatment.

Hydro - just add a teaspoon to your flow.

You must have roots for the mycorrhizal to feed on. I can't see using it on seeds.
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Old 03-16-2005, 07:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Mix with water and feed each plant 1/2 cup by poking holes in the soil and pulling up some of the soil with your finger. Cover with the soil after treating. Shake your container before each treatment.

Hydro - just add a teaspoon to your flow.

You must have roots for the mycorrhizal to feed on. I can't see using it on seeds.
OH Mr. Smartie pants LOL.
I have a feeeeew babies that are going to be potted up soon.
No seeds on the go right now.

Tummm tee tummm
seedlings to cup... cups to 2 gallon... 2 gallon to ... nope not there yet.

I did all my smallest that are older than 2 weeks old.
Made a tea and poured. I am assuming the Vermiculite that is in there is for suspension only?

I am waiting to go into my room tomorrow and see HUGE ASSED BUDS!!!!

Ya think?

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Tea as in applying heat?

I'm sure your plants will be up to the ceiling tomorrow (usually takes ten days to 2 weeks to see rapid growth if you have an untreated one).
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Tea as in applying heat?

I'm sure your plants will be up to the ceiling tomorrow (usually takes ten days to 2 weeks to see rapid growth if you have an untreated one).
As in mixed with water and placed in top of pot
Well, I have done a couple and we shall see. I haven't heard anything bad.
And the plants make thier own Mychorriza, so I expect to have a long and happy relashionship with this stuff.
Mychorriza... oooh it even sounds important.

Your fault on this one Gov. Been wanting to try it since you mentioned it.

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Old 03-17-2005, 02:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm now on my third grow. I didn't use mycorrhizal on my first grow but have on the last two. I recently harvested my second grow and couldn't believe the difference as far as root growth from my first. There was also a noticable growth spurt within two weeks after innoculating both times I have used the stuff. I'm not really experienced enough to know if mycorrhizal made the difference or if I just did a really shitty job on my first grow.
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I'm now on my third grow. I didn't use mycorrhizal on my first grow but have on the last two. I recently harvested my second grow and couldn't believe the difference as far as root growth from my first. There was also a noticable growth spurt within two weeks after innoculating both times I have used the stuff. I'm not really experienced enough to know if mycorrhizal made the difference or if I just did a really shitty job on my first grow.
Excellent, I am going into the 5-gallon pail idea, so I will never know the difference.
But with the testemonials you all give as well as other sites I 'll have to keep it in my repetoire.

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A test study

An excerpt from The Malta Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries

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MYCORRIZAL TRIALS ON TOMATOES, CARNATIONS AND POLE BEANS
The use of mychorriza ( fungus which forms an association with roots), was not found to be very effective under protected crop cultivation because under favorable conditions in the greenhouse it was difficult to see any visible changes in yield between treated and non-treated crops. Other trials have been carried out in the open fields on private holdings and signs of improvement in crop performance were noted.
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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This is a good read.

http://archive.nnytech.net/sgroup/biofuel/37250/1/

Her is the part I wanted to place here.


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Why does the soil carbon level increase in organic systems but not in
conventional systems when crop biomass is so similar? We believe the
answer lies in the different decay rates of soil organic matter under
different management systems. In the conventional system the
application of soluble nitrogen fertilizers stimulates more rapid and
complete decay of organic matter sending carbon into the atmosphere
instead of retaining it in the soil as the organic systems do.

Additionally, soil microbial activity, specifically the work of
mychorrhiza fungi, plays an important role in helping conserve and
slow down the decay of organic matter. Collaborative studies in our
Farming Systems Trial? with the United States Department of
Agriculture Research Service (ARS) researchers, led by Dr. David
Douds, show that mychorriza fungi are more prevalent in the FST
organic systems. These fungi work to conserve organic matter by
aggregating organic matter with clay and minerals. In soil
aggregates, carbon is more resistant to degradation than in free form
and therefore more likely to be conserved. Support for this work
comes from United States Department of Agriculture researchers at the
Sustainable Agriculture Laboratory in Beltsville, Maryland. Their
findings demonstrate that mychorrizal fungi produce a potent
glue-like substance called glomalin that is crucial for maximizing
soil aggregation. We believe that glomalin is an important component
for carbon soil retention and encourage increased investigation of
this mechanism in carbon sequestration.

Increasing soil organic matter for the soil's carbon bank is a
principle goal of organic agriculture. Organic agriculture relies on
the carbon bank and stimulated soil microbial communities to increase
soil fertility, improve plant health, and support competitive crop
yields. This approach utilizes the natural carbon cycle to reduce the
use of purchased synthetic inputs, increase energy resource
efficiency, improve economic returns for farmers, and reduce toxic
effects of fertilizers and pesticides on human health and the
environment.
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From http://www.usemyke.com

The manufacturers of the stuff I bought.

http://www.usemyke.com/mycorise/gard...mykegarden.htm

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Mycorrhizal fungi have occurred naturally in the soil for 400 million years. They form a close symbiotic relationship with plant roots. They are called mycorrhizae (from the Greek "mukés", meaning fungus, and "rhiza," meaning roots). However, in most soils that have been disturbed by residential construction, or intensive cropping practices with applications of fertilizers containing pesticides and other chemical products, the mycorrhizae content has considerably diminished, and has become insufficient to significantly enhance plant growth. When mycorrhizal fungi colonize the plant's root system, they create a network that increases the plant's capacity to absorb more water and nutrients such as phosphorus, copper and zinc. This process in turn enhances growth and favors rapid development of roots and plants
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