[koshiva]

Astral plains? Yes something like that I guess. More so that any such astral plain is just a place beyond the physical manifestations of the earth where one can go if you can meditate your mind at specific frequencies.

Did the monks come to me, or did I go to them? Or were they, as you suggest, just some kind of symbolic fragment of my own mind which was some how representative of a deeper purpose? Could even be that the whole experience was just like a dream...'imagined only', or even 'delusion'....but as I said above, because of the experience which was almost similar, with the dog happened, I sway very much toward it having been a real phenomenon and would explain why monks can just meditate for so many hours non stop. Its not like they just sit there emptying their minds necessarily even if thats possible too. I am sure that meditation itself could have many different frequencies or modes of use, or purpose...just like the different insense scents, or different musical tunes or symbols.

Indeed I speculated in that other thread, that when some monks chant or hum together, the whole monestary acts like a speaker to the world and that frequency goes into the ether which can be recieved by many other things/people. Different frequencies have different effects...like music can. There is scientific research also into the whole alpha, theta, beta waves of the brain too so its 'possible'.

With meditation...the higher one goes, the more you can achieve...like doors are opened for you. Sort of like being able to balance well through harnessing the minds eye...if you focus and relax, it comes easy...the moment you get excited and become aware of your abilities it bekons movement and you fall.

I never felt like it was something I wanted to persue at all...funnily enough. When it happened, I experienced that feeling for perhaps a minute only and thought that I should not dwell there and instead reflect on what had happened later when I was sober even though at the time I felt breathless because of what had happened...facinated , maybe even afraid too...surprised...bu t not quite to the extent that it was totally unexpected.

Its not uncommon for some to claim they heard a song before they wrote it, or saw a picture before they painted it...ie they came from outside themselves as opposed to just a reflection of something that artist created. I certainly think sometimes I hear music from afar rather than it being random songs just awakening from memories.