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Originally Posted by AfroHorse
i knew youd make all those points verk, as i considered them myself, but how can you demonstrate to people the virtues of living in freedom when their leaders wont allow such change even if the people wanted it. wouldnt you have to wait until some kind of (assumingly) violent revolution?
women live life better than they used to in the west, sure, but there was still violence and struggle when some women were protesting about how they were treated in victorian era england. i guess what im saying is that maybe sometimes violence is an inevitable component of much needed change
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yes. . . that's possible. but that change need not come from outside, the people themselves must decide the best course to enact the change they desire. if that is violence, that is their choice. but it shouldn't be OUR choice to use violence for what we see consider THEIR cause.
if people are unhappy with their leadership, it will change. it's happened in the US, the UK, etc. and i fully expect it to happen again and again. but what if someone else had come in and told us that we MUST change and tried to direct our way of doing it? that's what we're doing in iraq, for example. first they're threatened by their own leadership, and now they're threatened from without as well! and that serves only to delay any possible hope for real, enduring change that will result in greater happiness for the people.
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Originally Posted by AfroHorse
so, what do you when someone is breaking that rule?  |
give them a reality check.
but seriously, if it threatens my person or the person of someone else it's an offense which must be met in like kind. being offended at other stuff like rudeness or whatever is pretty lame, i only care if i'm seriously threatened.