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Old 05-07-2008, 04:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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hi,

the practice of nonviolence, vegetarianism, animal rights, and friendship/harmony with animals is pre-hindu, pre-jain, and in my understanding originated from the ancient peoples of africa who migrated to india to establish jain culture (very dark afro-asiatic indians found now mostly in the south of India)...but yeah, the vedic/hindu/krishna thing is not only far removed from the true practices found in india, but also rooted in imperialism and racism/classism.

the points of energy and consciousness are not ideas, they are knowledge that coincides with the true results of the purification practice. the knowledge is based on true experience and not mere ideas.

it seems to me like you are trying to justify your own behaviors with intellectual rationalization, and perhaps you have succumb to the activity and influence of the general masses? imo, action should be based on intellect and insight through true practice and experimentation not the other way around....and i have never seen any animal lay down to willfully be killed. they generally run away and struggle do they not?? lets not indulge in myths that seem irrational.

growth and life are not uni-directional. you can grow and live toward the dark side of things or toward the light and good. all living entails some harm, but it should be minimized to the furthest ability of carefulness and conscious non-violence/non-harming-taking sensitivities and qualities of different types of beings into consideration.

also, it seems that you are talking just about this earthly realm, but you should consider that there are many other worlds and realms of different qualities and nature--both better and worse than this one. the choice is up to you, of course. your own karma is in your own hands. you can astrally explore and have experiences of other worlds through weakening the bonds of incarnation through purification and meditation practice.

yes thanks for the communication. this is not meant to debase anyone...just to inform anyone interested in finding ways of achieving better health and fitness, advancing consciousness and meditation, and transcending negative karmas and sufferings. these are not personal beliefs i just made up...nor are they ones i just blindly accepted. i understand how the krishnas could leave you with a bad taste in the mouth, but you should understand that they are nothing like real indians (front religion linked to masons and illuminati), and even so represent the imperialistic culture of violent oppressive invaders into india with propaganda etc. i have studied numerous ancient cultures and religions and found the purest and most advanced knowledge that is time-tested, shows real results, has the most kind and nice people, and leads to profound experiences. i suggest you do your own experimentation with veganism and meditation for a period of sufficient time and see how you feel and experiences you have for yourself. also try keeping careful association for birds of a feather flock together in like karmic directions. ultimately, the results and benefits will be yours alone so choose how you treat all other beings carefully. i suggest you treat them all the same way you wish to be treated, cuz thats just how things work. you get what you give.
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