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Originally Posted by stoneric
the "hippies" had plenty to do with turning the attitude of the country against the war and without that we'd still be there.
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I'm sorry but that's total bullshit. The hippies were just an annoying pimple on the ass of the anti-war movement. Opinion only turned entirely against the war when regular everyday people were fed up with it. "Everyday people" as in people who didn't identify themselves with any sort of counter-culture movement. They weren't fed up with it because of the zonked-out activists....they were fed up because they were seeing people from their own communities come home dead and wounded without a clear reason why we were over there. It's as simple as that. I'm tired of the hippies trying to take credit for ending the war. It's just revisionist history that people have actually bought into because of how Hollywood has produced Vietnam movies.
Anyway...we're getting way off topic. This isn't a Vietnam war discussion.
As I said before, war is neccessary when it is just. I define "just" by defending one's self or one's allies when diplomacy is futile or useless. When it comes to war I'm not Dennis Kucinich but I'm also not Curtis LeMay.