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Old 05-12-2008, 08:06 AM   #22 (permalink)
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im not ignoring your points, im just responding in a generalized and abbreviated fashion. the point by point is a bit lengthy and tedious to me. thats just not the way i flow and perhaps im more 'clear and zen'--not in contrast to you but in general. i take in what you say and respond to your general flow. trust me i read and reread your posts while posting.
oh, so being "clear and zen" amounts to verbal masturbation. . . gotcha. this is really no different from your meat your meat thread. points are presented and disregarded in favor of regurgitating your original point. try to open the discussion beyond that and you might get a picture, then that's that. your zen seems like an excuse for laziness. not only in action, but in belief.

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why cling to the ways of this world with its suffering. why not aspire to better worlds free of such.
surely we can aspire to create a more ideal world, but what has our diet got to do with that? animal or vegetable, we must kill to eat. so the problem isn't as much what we eat, but how we eat it. do we appreciate our food? do we respect it? if we don't, we should. if we can love it more, we should. but if we love our food enough not to kill it, WE die. and that's not loving anything, that's disrupting and disrespecting the system in which we play a part.
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you can't explain the rules of tennis to a dog, but he runs after it and plays with it...like the dog playing with the ball, we don't have the necessary tools needed to interpret the afterlife..until we get there, then a whole new universe is given to us. Perhaps 200 billion light years away, there's the next phase of our existance..Remember you cannot destroy energy, which is all we are...

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