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Old 06-19-2008, 03:43 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Are you certain?/Which is your subjective belief about what is or is not objectively true.
I'm certain I don't know. I, of course, cannot be certain what you know, since I am a subjective consciousness. You could very well be omniscient. Are you omniscient?

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Are you certain?/Which is your subjective belief about what is or is not objectively true.Are you certain?/Which is your subjective belief about what is or is not objectively true.
I'm certain I don't know. I, of course, cannot be certain what you know, since I am a subjective consciousness. You could very well be omniscient. Are you omniscient? Do you know the true nature of reality?
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Are you certain?/Which is your subjective belief about what is or is not objectively true.
I'm certain I don't know. I, of course, cannot be certain what you know, since I am a subjective consciousness. You could very well be omniscient. Are you omniscient? Are the inventors of the scientific method omniscient? Can non-omniscient people create something omniscient?

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Are you certain?/Which is your subjective belief about what is or is not objectively true.
I'm certain I don't know. I, of course, cannot be certain what you know, since I am a subjective consciousness. You could very well be omniscient. Are you omniscient?
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Are you certain?/Which is your subjective belief about what is or is not objectively true.
I'm certain I don't know. I, of course, cannot be certain what you know, since I am a subjective consciousness. You could very well be omniscient. Are you omniscient?


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I could go on. I could answer any of your assertions with either this question or statement and we will get nowhere.
agreed.
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You admit that we can get nowhere, and then you try to get somewhere. You continue to make claims about reality, claim uncertainty is not possible, yet continue to act as though you are.
I can only assume this was a typo, as I claim CERTAINTY is not possible, outside of the certainty of being uncertain, since I am neither omniscient or objective.

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You are unable to live the philosophy you espouse since you're unable to say that you can't make objective claims about reality without that very claim being a claim about reality. Your position is philosophically untenable.
"I can't make objective claims about reality." I have indeed just made a claim about reality. This claim however, is a subjective one.

This position is completely philosophically tenable to my subjective mind. Your subjective mind, however, does not agree. OBJECTIVELY, you have no right to claim whether it does or does not, unless again:

I'm certain I don't know. I, of course, cannot be certain what you know, since I am a subjective consciousness. You could very well be omniscient. Are you omniscient?

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So long as you don't call whatever you call what you're doing "philosophy," "science," or some other type of word which would falsely lend your arguments credibility, I have no problem with you believing whatever you want to believe. My main goal is to maintain the integrity of science and philosophy.
I'll call it whatever I want. And you have every right to use your subjective mind to disagree with me. Science and philosophy (in quotations) doesn't lend any credibility to anything unless your subjective mind believes that science and philosophy lends credibility to something.

I have no problem with you believing anything you want either. The difference here, is that I'm admitting that what I believe is "what I believe" whereas you are claiming that what you believe is "objective truth."

Your goal is to maintain what you have decided makes up the integrity of science and philosophy.

In the course of this thread, you have claimed dibs on: the word truth, "real philosophy", integrity of science, and credibility.

you're actually quite aggressive. To my subjective mind, of course.
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