Originally Posted by hijabihippie
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If I understand correctly what you all are talking about, I believe what you are trying to describe is what Robert Heinlein called "grokking" in Stranger In A Strange Land.
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I'll allow it

I had to search it out on Wiki, but feel that closely relates to what I am saying.
Suchness, is the term used by the Buddha. Basically all words are there for conceptual understanding, but isn't the final means of attaining knowledge of a situation or sense object. Using words to talk is obviously fine within the suttas but it's advised to always be aware the words aren't the thing itself, only a means or tool. This plays inhand with
dependent origination which is, that phenomena arise together in a mutually interdependent web of cause and effect.
So when a tree falls in the forest and there is no one to hear it,
does it make a sound? Or is sound only something that exists when something perceives it?