[Ego Tripping]

Originally posted by user
This is simple case of you haveing the wrong information. Adaptaion and evolution are NOT very different processes. In fact, adaptation is the very core of evoltuion. This adaptation IS evoltuion, on a smaller scale than changing from one species to another. It's the stepping stone.

That's not a stepping stone, that's a giant leap.

The extra information comes from the environment. There adaptations exist, and the environment chooses which adaptations survive. The path of least resistance or least energy waste is through the adaptations that make it easier to survive. Will you acknowledge this much? That some adaptations let a species use less energy to survive? Because understanding that is crucial to understanding that we are not going against Entropy, we're merely carrying out some of entropy's job, like everything that exists.

That assumes the "enviroment" is a sentient being that can actually choose which species will survive and which won't. That creates quite a paradox I'd say. Are you referring to macro and micro evolution?

We have become smarter because it has been easier for us to survive and easier for us to break down energy by becoming smarter. Becomin smarter has made humans more effiecient. It's not a matter of complexity as humans see it, complexity is a human concept.

Then we're back to square one: what made us smarter to even want to break down energy? In fact, I'd say we were better off int he Colonial times, considering how the state of the world and Planet is in now, due to our "adaptation." If anything, we've become less efficient over time.

Oh, and your body adapting to a diet change and the species adapting to an environmental influence actually are two different things. I would think that as a strong evoltuionist at one point you would have know that they are two completely different uses of the word adapt. One means a genetic change, one means a solely physical change.

But my gripe isn't how Evolution works, it's how Evolution RUNS. Not everyone understands how a car works, but it's understood that you need gas to run it. Evolution needs information to run itself, and if you assume the enviroment is providing all that information, you're assuming the enviroment is actually making decisions on which species can exist and which cannot. If you say this is a "natural process", this goes against pretty much everything you know.

When you were an evoltionist, were your motives to try to fight christianity, or were they to foster the truth? Did your believeing in evolution come from not wanting to believe christianity?

Evolution just made sense....on the surface at least. I used to deny the existance of any supernatural, including God. This life was physical, and what I saw is what was there. But the more I studied about it, and other facets and possibilities of our reality, the more I saw the holes in the theory. You must remember, it's only that, a theory. It has not been proven, and still has it's hangups (information, entropy, lack of evolution in our time, "the missing link", etc..)

I've become the kind of person that questions EVERYTHING now, including my own beliefs. If you can argue your own beliefs and ideals and they hold up to the scrutiny, then you have an even better reason to accept them. Unfortunately, without adding in some kind of diety or "force" to drive Evolution, the theory falls apart on chance. As I said before, Evolution is essentially gambling with gigantic odds, and winning, every single time.

I'm not claiming to be a know it all, or saying that Evolution is 100% wrong, not at all. I'm merely stating that I am keeping an open mind to everything. If Evolution does happen, it cannot happen by pure chance alone, it needs something driving it. If Creationism exists, it must account for the striking similarities between the primates and the current homo-sapiens. All I am saying is remain skeptical about everything, because nothing is concrete in this existance. If anything, to me, Evolution and Creationism go hand in hand.