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Old 04-22-2004, 09:20 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I expected you to say I was taking the easy way out, and I'm going to have to show you up now.

You don't understand entropy. I have already bebunked your entropy claim. We exist BY creating entropy.

Since you have pissed me off by insisting on holding to false premises, then I will show you the truth about evolution and the second law of thermodynamics. Even though I already have fifty times. If this isn't enough to get your head straight then there's nothing I can do for you.

The second law of thermodynamics does not state that thing always move from order to disorder. And no, it's not the "always" in there that's the catch, there is no catch. The law of entropy isn't about order or disorder.
http://www.entropylaw.com/

I guess they are wrong ALSO. Too bad they are purely Scientific. (but let me guess, they are conspirators of Creationists trying to corrupt the theory of Evolution! It's just propaganda!)

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Here is the second law of thermodynamics "No process is possible in which the sole result is the transfer of energy from a cooler to a hotter body." Entropy measures the movement of energy. The second law of thermodynamics is like saying that the ice cubes in your drink will never grow, only shrink until they are gone or the water reaches 0 C.

Although energy moving from hotter to cooler is often associated with particles and pieces becoming more random, disorder isn't dependant on energy decreasing and energy decreasing isn't dependant on disorder.
You'd be abslutely right...if there was only one definition.

en·tro·py ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ntr-p)
n. pl. en·tro·pies
A) Symbol S For a closed thermodynamic system, a quantitative measure of the amount of thermal energy not available to do work.
B) A measure of the disorder or randomness in a closed system. (Universe is a Closed System)
C) A measure of the loss of information in a transmitted message.
D) The tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity.
E) Inevitable and steady deterioration of a system or society. (But wait...Evolution is a system that doesn't seem to deteriorate...hmmmmm )

Right from the Dictionary...But wait a second...I thought it's not about order from disorder! I guess the Dictionary people must be Creationists also.

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there is a constant huge amount of energy from the sun hitting the earth. This energy has a lower entropy then after the energy has moved through life and been turned into mostly heat. The energy comes from the sun, and rises in entropy while going through plants and animals.
Too bad this definition doesn't help Evolution.

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Things don't have to become more disorderly! They have to move from higher energy to lower energy, as a whole.
I agree. Doesn't change things though, you're only speaking about transfer of energy, not a species evolving.

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So your who phony entropy idea is a damn ploy made by hardcore christians such as yourself! (who also made up such things to satisfy their nagging consciences such as the idea that there are no transitional fossils (which is an outright lie) I'll take care of that next post, goddamnit) [/b]
WTF? You didn't show me anything besides ONE of the Definitions of Entropy. Damn man, you're a disgrace to the Scientific community, all I had to do was hit the Dictionary to get the answer.

Edit - Never said I was a Christian, at all. You keep blowing past everything I say and then taking offense to it. And you still haven't addressed anything besides Entropy. Or given me one reason why the link I posted are "propaganda", considering they mention nothing of Religious background. You're not the sharpest marble in the bag, are you?
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