Why is Cannabis Illegal? - Page 2

LorD420 · 05-21-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Geeno

Acting like it is completely harmless is irresponsible.

Please enlighten me as to how (non-burnt)Marijuana physically harms the body.
I propose that non-use of Marijuana is harmful to the body.

Patrick Rue · 05-21-2007, 09:29 AM

I have no idea.

I just think it is naive to think that it is totally harmless.

sparky007 · 05-21-2007, 09:53 AM

the reason why smoke is illegal because the people that are in charge are just very narrowed minded old way of thinking and that only go on what is put in there heads from there father and mothers and there fathers and mother and so on and they are afraid of change that they might loss control of the normal every day life and what they don't know or really care about it is a every day and nearly everybody is smoking it

**yungsmoke** · 05-21-2007, 11:38 AM

There's a market for criminals. The police make so many busts, even the little guys with just a joint, and, they put statistics up to apply for federal grants (more money, more overtime, etc.)

BearsysRevenge · 05-21-2007, 07:34 PM

To all the answers, not to sound like a dick, I know all these and they're not the answers I was looking for.
Again, I appreciate the responses, but as pertaining to this particular question, they're wrong because they pertain to greed and racism, not exactly things people want to flaunt.

I will rephrase the question, and more in depth

What is the legitimate reasoning that a politician gives when posed this question?

Say for example they were in a debate with another politician who knew the ins and outs of Drug Law and History, what valid reason could/do they give to this person about "Why Cannabis is Still Illegal", that couldn't be shot down by "That's just lies and propaganda" or "If/when it is legalized, the gangs fighting and killing over it will dissipate due to the fact that no one would buy something off the black market if they could get it at Wal-Mart"?

Patrick Rue · 05-21-2007, 07:38 PM

BearsysRevenge · 05-21-2007, 07:54 PM

Hypothetically, you've never really known much about weed or the war on drugs.

what reasons cold someone give that are true that wouldn't make you say "total bullshit" and disbelieve them?

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Originally Posted by LorD420

They significantly lose their ability to control us because it promotes an open and questioning mind.
Even more valuable than money, is power, and power is achieved by controlling the masses.
The last thing they want is for millions of sheep to wake up.

Though these are true, I couldn't say this and sell you on keeping pot illegal, you'd look at me as if I were greedy and crazy.

Same goes for these

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Cannabis remains illegal to protect the insignificant minority of people who are likey to suffer adverse consequences if they abuse it.

Cannabis remains illegal to protect the already vested interests of corporate profit.

Cannabis remains illegal to protect the (licit) monopoly of alcohol on recreational drug use.

Correct responses but when placed in front of the naive, are sure to bring about distrust more than trust.

**v3d4** · 05-21-2007, 07:54 PM

they have no legit reason and they dont have to have any. all they have to do is keep giving the same old bs, the same fake and flawed studies, make alarmist statements and emotional pleas to "save our children" and all that. it doesnt matter that its all bullshit, everyone with half a brain can see its lies and propaganda. it doesnt matter, because they have the guns and helicopters and the paid enforcers to keep the status quo.

LorD420 · 05-22-2007, 01:44 PM

If you're looking for what they would consider legitimate, they like to tout the number of minors in Marijuana addiction classes, all thanks to plea bargains(don't do it). The only legitimate argument they may have is the carcinogenic effects from burning.

That could be countered with:
Anything burned creates carcinogens. Cannabis, a wonderful source of anti-oxidants, minimizes these carcinogens by destroying free radicals. It has also been shown to reverse cancer by reprogramming cells to reject cancers and shrink tumors.

The bottom line i guess, is that there are NO LEGITIMATE arguments for keeping it illegal.

TheGrandPuba · 05-22-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by v3d4

well seriously, the the answer to this question has already been given in many posts by many people all over this forum.

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LorD420 · 05-22-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bongload

Don't make me call The Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Please do.

"The second law is the Greatest Good and the Biggest Bad to us."

In regards to the human body, I propose that Marijuana cannabinoids minimize or remove the "Biggest Bad" aspect, by assisting the Endocannabinoids which regulate all of our body systems.

BearsysRevenge · 05-22-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LorD420

If you're looking for what they would consider legitimate, they like to tout the number of minors in Marijuana addiction classes, all thanks to plea bargains(don't do it). The only legitimate argument they may have is the carcinogenic effects from burning.

That could be countered with:
Anything burned creates carcinogens. Cannabis, a wonderful source of anti-oxidants, minimizes these carcinogens by destroying free radicals. It has also been shown to reverse cancer by reprogramming cells to reject cancers and shrink tumors.

The bottom line i guess, is that there are NO LEGITIMATE arguments for keeping it illegal.

This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you.

bongload · 05-22-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LorD420

Please do.

"The second law is the Greatest Good and the Biggest Bad to us."

In regards to the human body, I propose that Marijuana cannabinoids minimize or remove the "Biggest Bad" aspect, by assisting the Endocannabinoids which regulate all of our body systems.

I meant the member of yahooka...

but yeah every piece of evidence saying how good weed is for you can be disputed with a study showing how harmful it is. You'd need a damn good reason why it needs to be legal.

LorD420 · 05-23-2007, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bongload

I meant the member of yahooka...

OIC

The damn good reason is that it's illegality is unconstitutional.
The cultivation and use of Marijuana doesn't infringe on anyones rights.
As an adult citizen, I am entitled to Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness.

bongload · 05-23-2007, 01:28 PM

So you're fighting on behalf of all drugs yes?

Patrick Rue · 05-23-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Methotrexate

This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you.

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BearsysRevenge · 05-23-2007, 04:07 PM

mookie · 06-01-2007, 02:33 PM

Marijuana is illegal because of ignorance.

Plain and simple.

You cannot teach anyone who wishes not to learn.

Therefore ,Marijuana will always remain illegal.

05-21-2007, 09:29 AM	#22 (permalink)
Patrick Rue Boss of Bluntville Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 16,441 Thanks: 358 Thanked 247 Times in 124 Posts	I have no idea. I just think it is naive to think that it is totally harmless. __________________ 6 Month Plan

05-21-2007, 07:34 PM	#25 (permalink)
BearsysRevenge Adminfiltrator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: I've got BuffaLOVE Posts: 4,757 Thanks: 666 Thanked 184 Times in 134 Posts	To all the answers, not to sound like a dick, I know all these and they're not the answers I was looking for. Again, I appreciate the responses, but as pertaining to this particular question, they're wrong because they pertain to greed and racism, not exactly things people want to flaunt. I will rephrase the question, and more in depth What is the legitimate reasoning that a politician gives when posed this question? Say for example they were in a debate with another politician who knew the ins and outs of Drug Law and History, what valid reason could/do they give to this person about "Why Cannabis is Still Illegal", that couldn't be shot down by "That's just lies and propaganda" or "If/when it is legalized, the gangs fighting and killing over it will dissipate due to the fact that no one would buy something off the black market if they could get it at Wal-Mart"? __________________ There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop! And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all! Click for lulz Last edited by BearsysRevenge; 05-21-2007 at 07:37 PM.

05-21-2007, 07:38 PM	#26 (permalink)
Patrick Rue Boss of Bluntville Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 16,441 Thanks: 358 Thanked 247 Times in 124 Posts	???? __________________ 6 Month Plan

05-21-2007, 07:54 PM	#28 (permalink)
v3d4 sky mind daughter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Terrapin Station Posts: 5,643 Thanks: 32 Thanked 163 Times in 91 Posts	they have no legit reason and they dont have to have any. all they have to do is keep giving the same old bs, the same fake and flawed studies, make alarmist statements and emotional pleas to "save our children" and all that. it doesnt matter that its all bullshit, everyone with half a brain can see its lies and propaganda. it doesnt matter, because they have the guns and helicopters and the paid enforcers to keep the status quo. __________________ remember our Governor Ken Gorman

05-22-2007, 01:44 PM	#29 (permalink)
LorD420 YaHookan Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Denver, Colorado, Amerika Inc. Posts: 220 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you're looking for what they would consider legitimate, they like to tout the number of minors in Marijuana addiction classes, all thanks to plea bargains(don't do it). The only legitimate argument they may have is the carcinogenic effects from burning. That could be countered with: Anything burned creates carcinogens. Cannabis, a wonderful source of anti-oxidants, minimizes these carcinogens by destroying free radicals. It has also been shown to reverse cancer by reprogramming cells to reject cancers and shrink tumors. The bottom line i guess, is that there are NO LEGITIMATE arguments for keeping it illegal. __________________ KOSTJFREE THE PEOPLE - END THE DRUG WARRest In Peace Ken The Emperor Wears No Clothes MARIJUANA COLORADO Liberty Or Death 420 Colorado Caregivers 4 Medical Marijuana www.jackherer.com Dr. Bob's Homepage War On Drugs CLOCK

05-21-2007, 09:53 AM	#23 (permalink)
sparky007 YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: galway ireland Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the reason why smoke is illegal because the people that are in charge are just very narrowed minded old way of thinking and that only go on what is put in there heads from there father and mothers and there fathers and mother and so on and they are afraid of change that they might loss control of the normal every day life and what they don't know or really care about it is a every day and nearly everybody is smoking it

05-23-2007, 01:28 PM	#35 (permalink)
bongload ^ it's an acronym Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 5,037 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	So you're fighting on behalf of all drugs yes?

05-23-2007, 04:07 PM	#37 (permalink)
BearsysRevenge Adminfiltrator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: I've got BuffaLOVE Posts: 4,757 Thanks: 666 Thanked 184 Times in 134 Posts	__________________ There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop! And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all! Click for lulz

06-01-2007, 02:33 PM	#38 (permalink)
mookie fubar Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 700 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Marijuana is illegal because of ignorance. Plain and simple. You cannot teach anyone who wishes not to learn. Therefore ,Marijuana will always remain illegal.